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Home My WebLink About2015-2-19Minutes for February 19, 2015, adopted Mar. 17 HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION 2 Fairgrounds Road Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554 ,www.nantucket- ma.gov Commissioners: Linda Williams (Chair), Dawn Bill-1 loldgate (Vice- chair), John McLaughlin, Diane Coombs, Raymond Pohl Associate Commissioners: lascin Leonardo Abigail Camp Kristine Glazer Staff. Marl -Voigt -- MINUTES -- Thursday, February 19, 2015 Public Safety Facility, 4 Fairgrounds Road, Conference Room 1:00. -p.m. Called to order at 1:08 p.m. Staff in attendance: K. Bedell, Administrative Specialist; T. Norton, Town Minutes Taker Attending Members: Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Absent Members: Hill - Holdgate, McLaughlin, Leonardo, Glazer Late Arrivals: None Early Departures: None Agenda adopted by unanimous consent. I. PUBLIC COMMENT 1. Davis, Hugh. Sitting Alternates Recused Documentation Representing Public Concerns 1.lotion Vote yollxlbueet voor cup/ ou oor sneer Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp None None File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. None None No concerns. Motion to Approve. (Coombs) Carried unanimously Certificate # 63229 OLD BUSINESS 1. Beach Nut LLC 1A Crows Nest Way New main dwelling 12 -24.1 JGGA Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Michelle Bellerjeau, J. Graham Goldsmith Architects — Presented neighborhood photos. The pervious approvals were for a demolition of the original house and a new construction; this proposal is similar to that approval. She will provide the previous approval. Public None Concerns (1:08) Williams — The previous approval shows stuff that would not have been approved: 14 -light doors and sidelights on narrow 6- over -6 windows. Discussion about what the previous approvals were for and whether or not there was an approval for a demolition. Pohl — There are many houses in the area that are significantly smaller than this, 1 -story or very low V/2 -stony houses. If the idea is to have three smaller structures, he doesn't see that. The overall mass of the previous house is substantially smaller than this proposal. This is over scaled for the neighborhood. Everyone agrees. Williams — Agrees with Mr. Pohl. This is 70 feet long with no additive massing and likes identity and the dormers are not correct. We need to see the original file. Coombs — Would like to see the square footage of that original approval. The groundcover out there isn't dense. Bellerjeau — Contends there is additive massing in the L- shape. Williams — There is not one place out there with four structures. The 3 ancillary structures block the entire front of this house. Also, some of the structures are crossing grades so will need to see the changes in the grade. Motion Motion to Hold for revisions and additional information. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # Page 1 of 6 Minutes for February 19, 2015, adopted liar. 17 2. Beach Nut LLC 1A Crows Nest Way Demo dwelling 12 -24.1 JGGA Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Michelle Bellerjeau, J. Graham Goldsmith Architects Public None Concerns Williams — Asked why a demolition is being requested if a demo was approved last year. Need to identify whether or not the demo was approved. Motion Motion to Hold to track and for further information. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 3. Beach Nut LLC 1A Crows Nest Way New guest cottage 12 -24.1 JGGA Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Michelle Bellerjeau, J. Graham Goldsmith Architects — Presented neighborhood photos. Public None Concerns None at this time. Motion Motion to Hold to track. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 4. Beach Nut LLC 1A Crows Nest Way Garage 12 -24.1 JGGA Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Michelle Bellerjeau, J. Graham Goldsmith Architects — Presented neighborhood photos. Public None Concerns None at this time. Motion Motion to Hold to track. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 5. Beach Nut LLC 1A Crows Nest Way New shed 12 -24.1 JGGA Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Michelle Bellerjeau, J. Graham Goldsmith Architects — Presented neighborhood photos. Public None Concerns None at this time. Motion Motion to Hold to track. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 6. Sandy Light LLC 64 Cliff Road Rev. COA 62757: dwelling 30- 632/6231 Sophie -Metz Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Sophie Metz — Reviewed changes made per previous concerns. Public None Concerns (1:28) Williams — There is an issue with the second curb cut off Delaney. The 18 -light doors French doors should be 15- light. Need to show the window wells on the elevations; two are huge and on the road. Those could come in on consent. Discussion about the Delaney curb cut. Pohl — Suggested granting an approval without window wells; those could come back under a separate application. Motion Motion to Approve with no window wells at this time. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 63230 Page 2 of 6 Minutes for February 19, 2015, adopted Mar. 17 7. Mailloux Brendan 4 Micheme Lane New dwelling 67 -162.1 LINK Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Victory Ewing, LINK Permitting and Design — Reviewed changes made per previous concerns. Public None Concerns (1:35) Williams — The front windows are out of alignment. The "A" windows should be centered in the posts. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with corrected plans showing the southwest /front elevation 4 main -mass (1:48) Williams — A pool and fence was approved. She is alarmed by the changes and the waterfall facing the road and windows centered between the porch posts. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 63231 8. Arena, Thomas 1 Ticcoma Way Add /deck extensions 67 -157 Concept Design Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing TJ Waterson, Concept Design — Reviewed changes made per previous concerns. Public None Concerns (1:37) Staff — Read previous concerns. Williams — It looks high where the back breaks. Garage doors should not be white when they are doubled up. Waterson — The height of the break is a function of the garage door, maintaining the roof pitch, and the plate height. Discussion about colors for the garage doors, trim, and sashes. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with both garage doors to be Nantucket grey. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 63232 9. Nerijus, Paulauskas 3 Cachalot Lane New dwelling 67 -781 Concept Design Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing TJ Waterson, Concept Design — Reviewed changes made per previous concerns. Public None Concerns (1:41) Williams — A secondary dwelling cannot exceed 22 feet; reminded that there is a 20% differential rule. Couldn't approve the proposed as a secondary because it is in front of this house. The 2- over -2 windows are not appropriate. Should cut 6 inches from the plate height. Coombs — Too much space between the windows on the 1 gt and 2nd floors. Pohl — Northeast elevation, the two shed dormers are too wide; cheek walls need to come in. Camp — Nothing to add Williams — The southeast walkdown and window wells are facing Cachalot; should come off that side. This is a long, 2- story structure with large, flush dormers facing the road. The garage has to be called out from the structure; right now it leads into the body of the house. Motion Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # IV. NEW BUSINESS 1. Mills,Tory 10 Old Westmoor Farm Road Hardscape — pool /landscaping 41 -823 Mark Lombardi Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Mark Lombardi — Presented the project. Public None Concerns (1:48) Williams — A pool and fence was approved. She is alarmed by the changes and the waterfall facing the road and won't approve it; the waterfall will be visible in the winter. Okay with the 3 -rail split rail with black mesh fencing. Review of what on the plans is actually changing as the highlighting did not reproduce. Need to include the information on the profile of the water feature. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with corrected application and the drawings highlighted compared to the original approval as to what exactly is changing. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 63233 Page 3 of 6 Minutes for February 19, 2015, adopted Mar. 17 2. 38 Pleasant LLC 38 Pleasant Street Hardscape — spa /fence 55.43-157 BPC Sitting Williams, Coombs, Camp Alternates None Recused Pohl Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Joe Paul, BPC — Presented project; the site plan is relevant to this application. Public None Concerns (1:58) The wrong file was brought to the table. Proper file sent for. Williams — Was concerned about the space between the house and garage and possible visibility. Additional screening should be something other than privet. Discussion about the location of the outdoor shower and additional screening; cedar in front of the Type II white picket fence from the point of the garage to the house. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with corrected plans showing a 36" -tall, white, Type II, capped picket fence with maintained privet on the south side of the fence per Exhibit A. (Coombs) Vote Carried 3 -0 Certificate # 63234 3. Ryan, Michael 16 E. Lincoln Avenue House raise /additions 42.5.1 -45 Thornewill Design Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing None Public None Concerns (2:08) No comments at this time. Motion Motion to Hold for March 17. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 1. Oak Hill Investitaentarbc�w Way +1tv dui 11in 42{1 lei Titus , Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Matt MacEachern, Emeritus Development — Reviewed the existing houses. Presented the structure. Public None Concerns (2:09) Williams — Explained the overall project. Don't like the chimney owl; HDC does not approve them. South elevation, the connector eave height is higher than the main mass and the one right of that is even higher; they should be stepping down from the main mass. The same is happening on the north side. North elevation facing Harborview Way, the posts are very tall over the porch and by the big windows; the turret on the right is a concern. The shingled wall should come up 6 inches. Does not want white on this structure because of the odd details. Would prefer this to be lowered into the grade, which would reduce the height. Discussion about merging 5 and 6 Harborview Way and the road terminating there. Pohl & Camp — Have no concerns about the chimney owl. Camp — Has no concerns with the turret. She likes the design, the fenestration. The chimney would like the rock to match the columns. Pohl — The eave height is a good point and needs to be fixed. About the columns, the shingled plinth is usually straight, not tapered; that might change the perception of the height. Notion Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 2. Oak Hill Investments 5 Harborview Way New guest house 43 -100 Emeritus Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Matt MacEachern, Emeritus Development — Asked this to track. Public None Concerns (2:09) No comments at this time. Motion Motion to Hold to track. (Coombs) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # Page 4 of 6 Minutes for February 19, 2015, adopted TT\Iar. 17 4. Lonergan, Dan 23 Union Street Alterations /partial demo 42.3.2 -201 Val Oliver Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Val Oliver — The owner is the architect. Presented project. Contends lack of visibility. Public None Concerns (2:24) Williams — The windows are the wrong proportion. North elevation, the 2 skylights going in the old building is inappropriate. Need proper architectural drawings. She doesn't want to work with these drawings. The addition shouldn't have over - hanging rakes. The south elevation has "whacky" overhangs. Pohl — The roof should change height at the cut through. If the eave is carried across, that will work and provide more room on the 1 It floor. He is cutting away to save an existing window. Suggested a way to fix the addition. Camp — West elevation fenestration, the small windows should be more like the original windows, tall and narrow. Motion Motion to Hold for revisions. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 5. Frazier, Elizabeth 1 Brocks Court Hardscape — pool /fence 42.3.4 -84 Atlantic Landscape Sitting Williams, Coombs, Camp Alternates None Recused Pohl Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Lindsey Congelton, Atlantic Landscaping — Presented project. Public None Concerns (2:32) Discussion about whether or not the zoning is changing to ROH this year. Williams — Called Planning to ascertain whether or not this can go forward. If this can be adequately screened, the judge said HDC can't deny pools because they "don't like the pool in the Old Historic District." Discussion about where the fence is running. Camp — There are no other pools in that neighborhood and feels it is inappropriate. Coombs — Agrees with Ms Camp. The fence would need to come in tight to the pool Williams —There is an existing fence and screening with additional screening preferably evergreen. The wire fence needs to go away. Suggested holding for a more substantial planting plan. Motion Motion to Approve due to lack of visibility through staff corrected plans showing changes to the fence, the gate, and the screening plan to be reviewed by the chairman. (Coombs) Vote Carried 2 -1 /Camp opposed Certificate # 63235 6. Raith, Jonathon 2 Goldstar Drive Alter /add /dele chim exist dwell 55 -190 Permits Plus Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Camp .Alternates None Recused None Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation. Representing Jon Raith Public None Concerns (2:54) Williams — The addition is okay but the fenestration is odd; will keep the existing front door. Southwest elevation, the "G" windows work better than the "D" window; the 4- over -4 "F" window to the right is okay in this situation. Northwest elevation, the "D" needs to be replaced with a "G'; the "C" window should be an "A" top sash. Rear elevation, same about the "D" windows replaced by "Gs ". Southeast elevation, should all be 3- over -3 top sash "A" windows; the casement "B" window in the middle could be an operable awning. Northeast elevation, "G" window removed and interior chimney. Camp — Asked why the chimney is being lost. (The chimney would need to be replaced anyway.) Coombs — The chimney should be interior; this is an old house. Motion Motion to Approve through staff will all "B ", "D ", & "E" windows replaced by "G" windows except for the middle "G" on the rear elevation to be an operable awning window; the "C" windows should be top sash of "A" windows; and the northeast elevation right gable "G" window removed and the chimney moved interior there per Exhibit A. (Pohl) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 63236 Page 5 of 6 Minutes for February 19, 2015, adopted Mar. 17 OTHER Approve Minutes Sept. 30, 2014, HELD Review Minutes Feb. 10, 2015 Other Business None Commission Comments None Motion to Adjourn: 3:03 p.m. Submitted by: Terry L. 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