HomeMy WebLinkAbout2015-2-17Minutes for February 17, 2015, adopted Mar. 10
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
2 Fairgrounds Road
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
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Commissioners: Linda Williams (Chair), Dawn Ifill- Holdgate (Vice- chair), John McLaughlin, Diane Coombs, Raymond Pohl
Associate Commissioners: lascin Leonardo, Abigail Camp, Kristine Glazer Staff: Mark Voigt
MINUTES
Tuesday, February 17, 2015
Public Safety Facility, 4 Fairgrounds Road, Training Room — 5:00 p.m. ,
Called to order at 5:12 p.m.
Staff in attendance: K. Bedell, Administrative Specialist; T. Norton, Town Minutes Taker --j
Attending Members: Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp -
Absent Members: Hill- Holdgate, Glazer _
Late Arrivals: None
Early Departures: McLaughlin, 8:49 p.m.
Review of changes to the agenda since it was posted.
Agenda adopted as amended by unanimous consent.
COMMENT 1. PUBLIC
None -
1_11. PRELIMINARY REVIEW
Sitting Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates None
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing Steve Theroux, Nantucket Architectural Group — Asked if everyone had a chance to go see this and read the packet
which gave the history of the building. Extensive renovations were done in the 1994 and most of the original fabric is
gone. Only 2 windows exist from the 1903 structure. Right now the structure is in the setback and if it is removed, they
would have to move it to conform to zoning. The new structure would front Fair Street.
Public None
Concerns Pohl — Visibility is from Fair Street. Would support a demolition.
McLaughlin — Nice presentation. He would approve an application.
Coombs — Nothing much is left of the framing. She would entertain a demolition. Would like to see the shape replicated
in the new structure
Leonardo — It is the shape of the original Cobbler Shop and it bothers her to lose that; the little addition was sensitive to
the size and scope.
Camp — Thinks it should be renovated and kept to the original architecture.
Williams — She doesn't think any original architecture is left except for the piece Ms Leonardo is talking about. It could
be incorporated into the new design. She "appreciates" allowing the demolition to provide a new direction.
1. Strang, Doris 8 Tripp Drive Emergency Demo by fire 80 -51 Self
Sitting Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates Leonardo
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing Val Oliver — She will fill out the paper work.
Public None
Concerns Williams — Spoke to Town Counsel by email; this can be put on because it was unanticipated "by me" to be coming up.
Steve Butler in the past has required people to get permits for demolition by fire.
Motion Motion to Approve the emergency exception and the demolition by fire the application to be signed by the
chair. (McLaughlin)
Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 63186
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13 West Creek Road
Addition to "Lucky's"
55 -165
Val Oliver
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53 ' A Street
Move shed 5'tcs r th .
55.4.1 -105
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5. Crocker, Laura — 63191
19 Ranger Road
Kitchen window change
39 -30
SCI /R. Newman
6. Appleby, Howard — 63192
4 Stone Barn Way
Replace all windows & doors
29 -914
BPC
7. 17 Mass Ave N. T. — 63193
17 Mass Avenue
Fence
60 -5
BPC
8. Green, Marilyn — 63194
27 Westerwyck Way
Change window to door
82 -400
Hrisco Rashkov
9. Kelly, Christopher — 63195
64 Pocomo Road
Add /window
15 -30
Permits Plus
10. Murphy, Harry — 63196
49 Vestal Street
Revisions to cabana
41 -185.4
Mark Lombardi
11. Meehan, Dennis — 63197
8 Nickanoose Way
Rev. COA 63127: add porch
55 -555
Nathan McMullen
12. Dex Dog LLC — 63198
6B Arrowhead Drive
Rev.COA 63063: resite garage
69 -58
Botticel i & Pohl
13. Gracie Island LLC — 63199
62 Hulbert Avenue
Revise fenestrations guest hse
29- 57/164
Botticelli & Pohl
14. Lifschultz, Betsy — 63200
3 Massasoit Bridge Road
Move /add /alter exist. cottage
59 -11
Permits Plus
15. Nantucket Land Bank — 63201
27/29 Quaise Road
Add to garage
26-8/11
BPC
16. Weiler, Elizabeth — 63202
10 Barnabus Lane
Hardscape
41 -567
David Troast
17. Cressman, Tessa — 63203
8 Wauwinet Road (1)
New window
20 -11.1
Nils VanVorst
18. Soffen Family L.P. — 63204
26 Wigwam Road
New garden shed
77 -8.9
Rowland & Assoc.
19. 276 Polpis Rd. N.T. — 63205
276 Polpis Road
Relocate existing gar on lot
25 -31
Rowland & Assoc.
20. Ceylon Elves — 63206
286 Polpis Road
Cottage move off
25 -33
Botticelli & Pohl
21. Dex Dog LLC — 63207
6B Arrowhead Drive
Cottage move on (286 Polpis)
69 -58
Botticelli & Pohl
22. Norris, ivlark — 63208
33 Pilgrim Rd Lot 2
Rev. COA 63112
41 -834
Emeritus
23. Mills — 63209
10 Old Westmoor Farm Rd
Garage
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Dave Wiley
Sitting Williams, lcLaughlin, Coombs, Camp
Alternates None
Recused Pohl, Leonardo
Documentation File with associated
plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing None
Public None
Concerns No concerns.
Motion Motion to Approve. (Coombs)
Vote Carried 3 -0 /McLaughlin
abstain
Certificate #
63187 to 63210
& 63217
CONSENT: V. •
•
*details and brick to match existing
2. Ottaviano, Mary — 63212
13 North Star Lane
Hardscape — pool /fence
30 -206
Mark Lombardi
*due to lack of viability
Sitting Williams, McLaughlin,
Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates Leonardo
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing None
Public None
Concerns Clarification about the chimney at 30 Hussey Street
Motion Motion to Approve through staff with noted conditions. (Camp)
Vote Carried 4 -0 /McLaughlin
abstain
Certificate #
63211 & 63212
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1. NCH Sports Medicine 6 Bayberry Court Wall sign 55 -706 Bob Ramos
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Stated she was told by Kevin Kuester of the Sign Advisory Committee that all signs are approvable except
for Item 3.
Staff — Item 1 is recommended to be approved with conditions.
Motion
Motion to Approve per Sign Advisory Committee recommendations. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63213
2. Flowers at Chestnut 1 Chestnut Street Projecting sign 423.1 -7 MichaeWolinar
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Stated she was told by Kevin Kuester of the Sign Advisory Committee that all signs are approvable except
for Item 3.
Motion
Motion to Approve per Sign Advisory Committee recommendations. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried Certificate # 63214
3. Brant Point Realty Trust 17 North Beach Street Wall sign 42.4.1 -66 Karen Murphy
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Said the owner is unable to attend the SAC meetings due to business matters. Ms Williams stated that she
will get the information on what the SAC is requiring to the applicant.
Motion
Motion to Hold for the March 3 meeting. (Leonardo)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
4. NHA Properties 75 Old South Road Wall sign 68 -999.2 Anne Kuzpa
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Stated she was told by Kevin Kuester of the Sign Advisory Committee that all signs are approvable except
for Item 3.
Motion
Motion to Approve per Sign Advisory Committee recommendations. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried Certificate # 63215
5. NIR Retail /ACKtiques 0 Maim Street projecting sign ; 42.3.1 -181 Pat McCarthy
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Stated she was told by Kevin Kuester of the Sign Advisory Committee that all signs are approvable except
for Item 3.
Motion
Motion to Approve per Sign Advisory Committee recommendations. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried Certificate # 63216
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OLD BUSINESS
1. G & G Development 11 Mill Hill Woodlnds -Lotl3 New dwelling 55- 314/16 -18 French 2D
Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates None
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Public
Concerns
Motion
Vote
Motion
Vote
Concerns
Motion
Vote
2. WROE
Sitting
Alternates
Recused
Documentation
Representing
Public
Concerns
Motion
Vote
None
None
Williams — The house has been completely redesigned. Reviewed the changes. No sidelights.
Pohl — This is definitely an improvement. West elevation, the columns are still very tall in relation to the scale of the
building; if the porch were deeper the columns would be shorter; for the scale of the building, the 4 small individual
dormers look like teeth; there should be fewer dormers with multiple windows. North elevation, not bad. East elevation
the porch on the right is awkward. South elevation is all right. A cap is drawn on top of the windows where there should
be a headcasing; the cap should be on top of the headcasing, which should be 1X6.
Coombs — East elevation, there should be more windows in the right gable addition. There is something not pleasing
about the windows.
Leonardo — She doesn't think a gambrel is appropriate; all the structures coming up Mill Hill are 1- to 1' /2-story capes.
Part of the issue with the dormers on the front is that they should be gabled. The little outbuilding should be removed
from the plan.
Camp — The whole structure should be reduced in height; it would be sweeter if it were smaller.
Williams — She doesn't think a gambrel is inappropriate here and appreciates the height and stepping the building down.
South elevation, the pitch on some of the dormers is wrong; the pitch should continue as 7/12. Don't agree with gable
dormers on the front; prefers the shed dormers.
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Camp)
Carried unanimously
Motion to Reopen. (Camp)
Carried unanimously
Williams — Reviewed the comments for the representatives, Alexandra and Jennifer French, who arrived after the
hearing was closed.
Camp — Pointed out that there are gambrel structures on Orange Street that are nice examples.
Williams — Listed off a number of typical gambrel structures in the old historic district (OHD).
Pohl — There should be an organization to the facade.
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Carried unanimously Certificate #
91 Tom Nevers Road Addition to dwelling 91 -17 CWA
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Camp
None
None
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Chip Webster, Chip Webster Associates — Reviewed changes made per previous concerns.
None
Williams — An initial problem was gable - gable -gable with the middle coming forward like batwings on the side; that is
still a problem; the right should be an eave coming across. The front is completely visible; the 3 extra decks are not
appropriate. The north elevation is not visible.
Coombs — East elevation, the railing on the first floor should be extended all the way over. Agrees with Ms Williams
about the front gables.
McLaughlin — This fits the neighborhood as designed. There are 63 feet deck and he is allowed 37.
Camp — Nothing to add.
Williams — In that stretch, those are compact houses; if the right gable goes away and break it to show the original
house, it would fit better. The triple in the middle is not appropriate. (That's existing.) The front door is in the left lean -
to; it should be "here ". There is a mammoth deck facing the road; there is no main mass any more, the double doors are
too much, the size is too much; all decks need to be pulled in. The panes of the "D" windows are horizontal. West
elevation, the "C" windows are not traditional 3- over -3 windows. North elevation, which isn't visible, there is another
"C" window that needs to be changed out. West elevation, the deck needs to be pulled back and the basement walkdown
dotted in.
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Carried unanimously
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Certificate #
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3. Ottatal LLC
46 Surfside Road Rev. COA 60911: fenestration 67 -773 CWA
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Camp
Alternates
None
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Chip Webster, Chip Webster Associates — Reviewed changes made per previous concerns.
Public
None
Concerns
Staff — Read previous concerns.
Motion
McLaughlin — The West faces the road, this is too much of a commercial design with residents on both sides. The 20-
Vote
light windows are noted as awnings on the window schedule.
Coombs — This is a big box; the structures next to it are not. Coming down Surfside Road the South and West will be
visible and from the other direction the North will be visible. Needs additive massing and would like a reduction in the
number of windows on the south and north elevations. It's close enough to the street to be seen. The chimney on the
original broke it up.
Camp — Nothing to add.
Williams — The building this is replacing is pretty much the same structure and this is a commercial structure. Says the
north elevation is not visible because another structure blocks it. Perhaps the south elevation 2nd floor is over fenestrated.
It looks bigger than it is; its only 34X24. She doesn't think there is a way to get additive massing. Perhaps there are too
many windows on the north elevation. The grouping of the windows should be less chaotic. She is concerned about
visibility form the Land Bank property; the thing that's 12 feet out needs to be pulled in and the windows better spaced
and unganged on the 2°d floor. The 18 -light doors should be 15 light; the west elevation needs a panel in the French
door.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
1. tck a'aartlk
ttge
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The design isn't happening with clear -light windows, no roof and an overhang. Suggested holding for a more
traditional design. It is completely visible; it shouldn't be on Boyer's Alley. This needs to be moved to the back of the
house.
McLaughlin — This looks like an outhouse.
Leonardo — It shouldn't be in this location.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions to design and move on site and representation. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
2. Mus. of Africa. Am. Hist 27 York Street - Cottage Door /foundation /repairs 55,4,1 -177 Marsha Fader
Sitting Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates Leonardo
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing Marsha Fader — Presented project. Circa 1930. Foundation will be poured.
Kimal McCarthy, Site Manager
Public
None
Concerns
Pohl —Wood gutter and leaders. The new door should be a 9 -light door rather than 4, it would be more appropriate to
this structure.
McLaughlin — Nice.
Coombs — Agrees with Mr. Pohl about the door. Asked about the gutters on the main house and on the meeting house.
Fader — The 4 -light door and the gutters and leaders are historical concerns as they match the existing structure and are
in keeping with the 1930s design.
Camp — Okay with the door.
Motion
Motion to Approve. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63218
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3. Mus. Of Africa Am Dist 27 York Street - Garage Foundation & door changes 55.4.1 -177 Marsha Fader
Sitting Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates Leonardo
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing Marsha Fader — Presented project. Circa 1930. Foundation will be poured.
Kimal McCarthy, Site Manager
Public
None
Concerns
McLaughlin — The pent roof for the garage doors doesn't show on the side elevation. (That is wide trim not a roof.)
No concerns.
Motion
Motion to Approve. (McLaughlin)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63219
4. Delano, Chris
& Cindy 5 Longwood Drive Shed 71 -45 Self
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The location of the shed is wrong.
Leonardo — There is a garage not shown on the site plan.
Williams — The site plan is from 2011; need an updated siteplan showing all improvements. This will be on the street.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
5. Delano, Chris
& Cindy 5 Longwood Drive Deer fence 71 -45 Self
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Leonardo — This plan shows a larger shed with the fence around it. If this goes in the back it needs to be away from
Green Hollow, there is a path there.
Williams — This fence is 8 -feet tall by 40X72 right on the road. If this is sited in back of the house, it would be
approvable.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
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6. Fogarty, Brian
12 Clifton Street Hardscape — pool /fence 73.4.1 -39 Mirka Ahern
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Miroslava Ahern — Presented project.
Public
Sarah Alger, Sarah F. Alger P.C., for the Kinsley at 16 Clifton Street — Stated that she is carrying a letter from Mr.
Concerns
Schneeweiss as well as a letter from her clients. This pool will be visible from North Road. The wire in the privet hedge
won't provide adequate screening and the wire will be visible in the winter. She is concerned about the 60 -day status on
the cabana; besides, it shouldn't be used as screening.
Brian Swain, for Merritt Roberson Trust at 6 North Street — Ms Alger has summed up his client's concerns.
Concerns
Williams — Asked if the cabana was approved. (Held) They were told getting a pool in that location was slim to none,
especially such a large pool due to visibility. Read the Schneeweiss letter of objection to the pool. Read the Kinsley's letter
of objection. The status of the cabana needs to be checked.
Motion
McLaughlin — The main thing is visibility. Asked to hold for a viewing. If it is visible, wire fencing embedded in
Vote
vegetation is approved all over the island.
Motion
Pohl — He is deferring as he was not on the previous application and has not viewed the site.
Vote
Coombs — This is in an area that is hard to screen and would change the context of Clifton and North.
Camp — The location of the pool is not appropriate in regards to the siting of the house. Agrees with Ms Coombs.
Williams — To screen this would create an anomaly in the neighborhood and running a wire fence all the way around
would change the setting. This pool will be visible. It will create a negative impact on the neighborhood. Mr. Fogarty was
warned before the house was approved that the pool would be nearly impossible to get.
Ahern — Pointed out that she landscape his lot to create a private back yard with heavy vegetation and that would change
the neighborhood as well. Also, the end of North Road is not developed; there are cedars in the way.
Williams — The perimeter fencing is for the pool and it wouldn't be allowed anyway.
Discussion about what the landscaping would be like in relation to the fences and screening, which is the issue.
Motion
Motion to View and Hold for revisions. (McLaughlin)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
7. Kellman, Jason
27 Hinckley Lane Increase size of roof walk 30 -103.2 Twig Perkins
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Ethan McMorrow — Presented project.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Should have just three posts along the length; this is going from 14 to 16 feet long and from 8 to 9 feet wide.
No additional concerns.
Motion
Motion to Approve through staff with three posts on the east and west sides. (Camp)
Vote
Carried 4 -0 /Coombs abstain Certificate # 63220
8. KKPC LLC
154 Surfside Road Hardscape — pool /fence 87 -7 Ben Champaux
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — It looks like the pool is to the right of the house in view of Surfside Road and the bike path; the board fence
in that location creates a visible corral. The vegetation is wrong. The landscape slopes from the house to the road and
there is a 2 -foot wall with no explanation; suggested holding for representation.
Coombs — This area is wide open all the way around; from the drawings, there is a big fat rectangle. The pool itself won't
be visible.
McLaughlin — One plan says a 4 -foot lattice and one says 4 -foot board.
Leonardo — Pools are getting out of control in create alien landscapes in the middle of moors.
Motion
Motion to Hold for representation. (McLaughlin)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
Motion
Motion to Reopen. (Pohl)
Vote
Carried unanimously
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Concerns Williams — Reviewed the comments for the representative, David Champaux, who arrived after the hearing was closed.
reopened It would have to be smaller, run a different direction, have the fence pulled tighter, and be screened by year -round
154 Surfside vegetation.
Road Coombs — This house and property between two roads and the is area wide open. This drawing is squared off and isn't
the existing feeling of the property; it changes the property from what is natural to some sort of palisade.
Motion Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Vote Carried unanimously Certificate #
9. Jacobson, Michael 4 Wanoma Way Hardscape — pool /fence /wall 92.4 -141 Ben Champaux
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — This has the same issues. Wants this to come back on Thursday.
Notion
Motion to Hold for representation and to come back February 19. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously
Motion
Motion to Reopen. (Pohl)
Vote
Carried unanimously
Concerns
Williams — Reviewed the comments for the representative, David Champaux, who arrived after the hearing was closed.
Motion
Have to have the abutting roads shown on the site plan. The layout of Wanoma Way goes past this house so theoretically
Vote
could be opened. We don't create platforms for pools, they must be at grade.
Break
Champaux — This dead ends at this lot. Looked at alternative locations but this is the only spot of full -sun location
11. Kleinfeld, Klaus 13 Hawk Circle Spa with deck surround 73 -49.1 Chris Lewis
where this can go and be close to the house. The pool is at grade with the deck of the house and retained on the ocean
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
side.
Leonardo
Williams — This can go on the view list but we can't get out there till the snow melts. Will try to get there before the next
None
meeting.
Motion
Motion to View. (Camp)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
10. Robinson, Francis &Sharon 7 Dustin Farm Way Raise roof /add balcony /dorm 56 -283 Daily Construction
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
(Camp left the room /not an alternate)
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Isaiah Stover — Presented project. The way it is framed, the garage is 13 inches higher.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The dormers should not be gables on a secondary element. The dormer windows are larger. Suggested a
reverse saltbox design, which would bring the front eave down.
McLaughlin — No comments.
Pohl —The dormer windows in the addition are taller than the 2nd -floor windows in the main body. Okay with raising the
roof, however, everything is vertically stretched; the plate should come down and the dormers should be sheds.
Coombs — Agrees with Ms Williams about the reverse saltbox idea.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Leonardo)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
Break
11. Kleinfeld, Klaus 13 Hawk Circle Spa with deck surround 73 -49.1 Chris Lewis
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Now that this has been clarified, they can be approved under Consent with Conditions.
Motion
Motion to Approve through staff with a full site plan and photos. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63221
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12. Hayden, Nancy 7 North Point Road Door /window change 38 -81 Sanne Payne
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Now that this has been clarified, they can be approved under Consent with Conditions.
Motion
Motion to Approve through staff with no change to the previously approved French doors. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63222
13. Burn the Ships LLC 98 Old South Road New office building 68 -429 Concept Design
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Juraj Bencap, Concept Design
Geoff Smith, owner
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — This is way in violation of zoning. Window wells and decks are not approvable on the Old South Road side.
This must have a presence facing the road; move the building forward and put the parking in the back.
McLaughlin — This is visible. East elevation, the windows are all casements; they should be fixed.
Pohl — No comments.
Coombs — South elevation, all the French doors facing the road; it should have a front door facing the road; the 4 -light
in the gable is the wrong shape. North elevation, all the "A" windows are smaller than the 2nd -floor windows.
Leonardo — Agree with Ms Coombs. East elevation, would prefer (something about a triangle, too much paper noise.)
North elevation, the fixed overhead garage door shouldn't be there; would prefer to see something that belongs there like
a double swing door or a barn door.
Williams — The form is simple. The gable window should be a top sash. All the "B" windows are too squat. Need a door
in the middle. No French doors facing the road. The E elevation "D" windows should be top -sash "A" windows.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Leonardo)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
14. Chumak, Sergey 6 Gray Avenue New addition to dwelling 67 -175 Concept Design
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Juraj Bencap, Concept Design
Sergey Chumak, owner
Bazen Lapenko, builder
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The roof system seems complex. A front door is being added on the Gray Avenue side. Normally the stairs
run away from the street.
Discussion clarifying the project.
Pohl — Has no concerns.
Williams — Except for the sidelights, the bottom two panes should be replaced with a panel.
Coombs — Agree about the panel in the sidelights.
Camp — Would like to see the dormer be a 4/12 pitch and not come off the ridge line. (It is existing.) Would prefer to
see the porch be a broken back.
McLaughlin — The casements should be fixed.
Williams — The "C" windows should be the top sash of an "A" windows.
Motion
Motion to Approve through staff with the "C" windows to be the top sash of the "A" windows and the bottom
two panes in the sidelight to become panels. (Pohl)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63223
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15. Hughes, Elizabeth 14 Spearhead Drive New storage building 69 -336 Val Oliver
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Val Oliver — This is all industrial.
Public
George Hughes — In 2017 it will become zoned all industrial
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The only reason this didn't go on consent was because she wasn't sure how many all-metal buildings have
been approved out there; the neighboring building is metal and almost identical. Have been requiring others to shingle or
cover in barnboard.
Motion
Motion to Approve with the putty-grey walls and gun -metal grey roof. (McLaughlin)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63224
16. Winship, Todd /Elizabeth 16 Monohansett Road Rev. COA 62866: deck 79 -143 Rowland & Assoc.
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Ben Normand, Rowland & Associates — Presented project. This sets over 200 feet off the road and the road turns away
Leonardo
from the house; argues that it is not visible.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — If those trees die, there would be visibility of the side and the metal railing on the 2nd floor, which HDC has
Sanne Payne — Presented project. Her client called and asked if a spa could be added in the top right corner of the pool.
never approved. Continued to argue visibility should the trees die and that metal railing is not appropriate.
None
Pohl — He agrees with Mr. Normand about the lack of visibility.
Williams — Don't have enough information and the GIS is not adequate.
Coombs — Visibility could depend on the driveway for 10 Monohansett, if it were widened or moved.
No concerns due to lack of visibility.
Normand — They will go to natural to weather vertical balusters on the 2nd floor.
Motion to Approve through staff with the addition of the spa to the site plan and a better locus map. (Coombs)
McLaughlin — Asked about the roof walk.
Motion
Motion to Approve through staff with traditional natural to weather balusters on the west elevation 2,d-floor
deck. (Camp)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63225
17. 276 Polpis Rd. N.T. 276 Polpis Road Main house add & renovation 25 -31 Rowland & Assoc.
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Ben Normand, Rowland & Associates — Presented project. Circa 1830s -1850s with a lot of ugly additions.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — This is only visible from the east and from Polpis Road.
Leonardo — On the south side, the long first swoop is old. (Circa 1930s) N elevation, the triple window would prefer the
original windows be preserved. Would like to see more historic information on the original fabric.
McLaughlin — No comments.
Pohl — West elevation, would like to see a better way to handle the gable.
Coombs — The triple window in the north elevation gable; would prefer them to have more space between.
Williams — Agrees with Ms Leonardo; the less intrusion the better. All original windows should be reused.
Motion
Motion to Hold for further information. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
18. Mittlebusher,
David 5 Brier Patch Hardscape — pool /fence 21 -133 Sanne Payne
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
.Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Sanne Payne — Presented project. Her client called and asked if a spa could be added in the top right corner of the pool.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Don't have enough information and the GIS is not adequate.
No concerns due to lack of visibility.
Motion
Motion to Approve through staff with the addition of the spa to the site plan and a better locus map. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63226
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19. Hudson, Wendy 25 Broad Sheet Rev.COA62591 /62880 :de& /`ac 42.4.2 -77.1 ' Emeritus
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Matt MacEachern, Emeritus Development — Need to locate the condensers which could go on the northwest corner
where they would be raised and have to be screened; they prefer this proposal putting them on the east elevation. The
other part is the 2nd -floor deck.
Sande Roberts
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The air - conditioning units (A /C) can't go on the side not where the driveway is and these tall vertical ones
are not approvable. We need the whole "damn thing." Prefer the rear of the west side with screening. That deck facing
the street is inappropriate.
Coombs — This building has to stay as quiet as possible and that deck is not quiet.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
20. Raith, Jon
14 Easy Street Rev.CO 63037: ciarify`,demo 42,3.1 -13 Emeritus
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing Matt MacEachern, Emeritus Development — Presented the scope of the demolition.
Jonathan Raith — From a builder's perspective, he agrees with the engineering assessment and tier. MacEachern's
comments. He likes the design because it draws off the existing building even if it is slightly quirky.
Sande Roberts
Public None
Concerns Williams — We allowed so much change to this Circa 1940 building, we impacted every wall of this building. Stated that
she "just now" received a letter from DWD Engineering, which reviewed the structure to see if it is feasible to modify the
existing framing; read the letter into the record. Said she asked Mr. MacEachern to come up with a demo plan of what of
the original fabric would be left. A large part of this design was forced by keeping the front structure; if this goes away,
that would allow them to build something more architecturally appropriate. Asked if they are wedded to the "weirdness"
going on in the back or would they prefer to go with something less complicated and more standard.
MacEachern — They layout and massing works. Changing the back would change the character.
Raith — He agrees with Mr. MacEachern. Keeping the back would make the building enjoyable from two different
directions.
Coombs — It has come up a lot recently; someone buys a historic building and it doesn't conform to what he wants to
do; HDC seems willing to tear the building down. She believes the applicant shouldn't have bought the historic building
if it doesn't meet their needs.
MacEachern — Pointed out that some people don't close their P &S until they know if they can do what they want others
know the risk they are taking. The HDC members have a responsibility to ask questions and gauge as it goes through; it
becomes a tipping point when alterations become a demolition. He contends this structure doesn't have historic value.
Discussion about the number of demolitions of historic buildings that have come in and why.
Staff — Asked if this is for a whole demolition. That is what was indicated on the application; as a complete demolition,
the abutters need to be notified.
McLaughlin — If they are going to build this design, the casement windows on the front of the building in the OHD are
inappropriate.
Motion Motion to Hold for notification of the abutters and to amend the application. (Coombs)
Vote Carried unanimously Certificate #
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21. Percelay, Bruce 81 Millbrook Road Rev. COA 63040: garage 40 -26.3 Emeritus
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Camp
Alternates
Leonardo
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Matt MaeEachern, Emeritus Development — Presented project.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The proposed dormers facing the street are absolutely inappropriate.
Coombs — Not sure the shutters are appropriate on the front; the little house is simple and think this should be simpler
Coombs — The panes on the garage door change are not approvable.
itlotion
Motion to Approve through staff with the garage doors being 6 -light vertical panes and no change to the
with a railing going up to it. Okay with the additive massing.
dormers on the north elevation. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63227
22. Ceylon Elves LLC 286 Polpis Road New dwelling -main house 25 -33 Botticelli & Pohl
Sitting
Williams, Coombs, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates
None
Recused
Pohl
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Lisa Botticelli, Botticelli & Pohl — Presented project.
Public
None
Concerns
Coombs — Not sure the shutters are appropriate on the front; the little house is simple and think this should be simpler
as well. South elevation, the right dormer should come off the roof line more. The front door should be more prominent
with a railing going up to it. Okay with the additive massing.
Leonardo — Likes the arch over the front door. Would prefer the front dormer broken up. The cottage is 8- over -8
windows and the windows on this should match; also would like to see a capped chimney on this house to tie the two
together. Would to see the double sized doors in the foundation be reused.
Camp — Agree with what's been said. Would prefer no shutters and smaller panes and for the chimney- to reflect back to
the original house.
Williams — Thinks if the shutters come off and the dormer is reworked, there would be too much wall space. Thinks the
shutters should stay. Agree about the front door change. The sunroom has too much wall and the windows would not
typically be 6- over -6; it needs to look like a porch that was filled in. As far as the 8- over -8; we knew the windows
wouldn't match the original house because they are far apart; thinks the 8- over -8 on this would be way too fussy.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
23. \Iscisz, Jennifer
51 Crooked Lane Rev.COA62948: win /dr /roof 41 -531 Ethan -Mc-Morrow
Sitting
Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates
None
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Ethan McMorrow — Presented project.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — Stated that several times she asked for information and did not get it so she wasn't able to do anything with
this; otherwise it could have gone on consent. Told the representative that when the chair asks for information to clarify
the application it should be forthcoming. It was not. Her question is if the pool and pool house were already approved,
why does it say proposed on the plan and where is the fence an all the other improvements; therefore this is an incorrect
site plan.
Discussion about whether or no they site plan, used in the approval of the pool and pool house, is adequate for the
purposes of this hearing.
Pohl — He has no issue with the proposed changes.
Discussion on the motion.
Williams — approved with corrected site plans.
Motion
Motion to Approve through staff with corrected site plan. (Camp)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate # 63228
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5. Raith, Jonathon 2 Goldstar Drive Alter /add /rem chim exist dwell 55 -190 Permits Plus
6. Heathers Haven LLC 13 C Street Renovate existing house 60.2.1 -76 Cohen /Eckman
Sitting
Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates
None
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
None
Public
None
Concerns
No comments at this time.
Motion
Motion to Hold for Thursday February 19. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried Unanimously Certificate #
3. Counihan, Carol 21 Kimball Avenue Hardscape 30 -28 Andrew Wing
Sitting
Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates
None
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Andrew Wing, Wingworks — Presented project. Reviewed context photos.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The walls and the property lines are not shown on the site plan and need the topography. Would prefer more
slope to the grade to minimize the number and height of the walls; don't want a platform for planting beds.
Camp — Would prefer rounded stone rather than the squared off. It is very sharp and harsh for that environment.
Coombs — South elevation, there is a straight wall when the natural slope goes to the second wall; the first wall should be
eliminated. The landscaping should follow the slope of the land.
Williams — In the previous approval, it was represented that there would be no vehicular access to the garage that it was
solely for storage; not willing to approve a wall beyond the parking area. Need to feather around the parking area more.
Pohl — Remembers the assertion that the garage was not to be used for cars.
Leonardo — Kimball is still a relative wild area; the walls are inappropriate.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
7. Ram Island LLC 4 Barstow Lane New dwelling 40 -47 Botticelli & Pohl
Sitting
Williams, Coombs, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates
None
Recused
Pohl
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Lisa Botticelli, Botticelli & Pohl — Presented project. Contends limited visibility.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — This is 105 feet long.
Coombs — Would like to view again with height poles. The "F" and "C" windows are too square.
Motion
Motion to View with 3 poles, 2 at each end and one in the middle. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
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8. Canty, Chris & Tracy 7 Keequinn Circle New dwelling 55 -111.2 Kyle D. Snell
Sitting Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp
Alternates None
Recused None
Documentation File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing Kyle Snell — Presented project. Contends limited visibility of the west elevation.
Public None
Concerns Williams — There is way too much going on that isn't right. Don't approve 4 -light windows unless in the gable. "This"
should be a 9 -light. West elevation is 44 feet long; needs better additive massing.
Pohl — Too many casement windows; should be double hung. Agrees about creating an ell off the back.
Coombs — The 3 ganged windows, the Nr "1" 2- over -2 windows need to be vertical and the same with the 2 windows
on the main house west elevation. An ell off the back should be 1 -story.
Camp — The west elevation needs a break in the 44 -foot long wall.
Motion Motion to Hold for revisions. (Leonardo)
Vote Carried unanimously Certificate #
9. Maury, Larry
54 Old South Road New storage building 68- 18.2/.3 Val Oliver
Sitting
Williams, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo, Camp
.Alternates
None
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Val Oliver — Roof, doors & sash — evergreen and the side gun -metal grey. Drew the design from the barn buildings in
this area.
Steven Maury — Presented project. Cited that a grocery store and huge Marine Home Center will be going in here.
Public
None
Concerns
Williams — The big addition off the back is coming off. This is 105X75 feet. This has a 5 -pitch roof, have asked that not
be done. Haven't approved a green standing seamed roof except at the golf club.
Coombs — Orientation on the elevations is wrong: the south faces Old South Road. A red roof would work. That length
of metal building facing the road in that location is something she can't approve; everyone there has smaller buildings or
broken up for small stores. This is belongs out on Arrowhead or Sun Island.
Pohl — Pointed out that the new Stop & Shop is shingled. Cited another storage building as precedent to hold this to a
higher standard. Also cited the rigorous review that the new Stop & Shop went through.
Leonardo — Agrees with Ms Coombs; it's too big and all metal.
Camp — Agrees; massing, color, materials, fenestration, all that is too industrial.
Williams — This sits back 160 feet from the road with much of it blocked by the existing building and a recently
approved office building with abutting structures blocking the visibility of the right. The left and rear are not visible at all.
Contends that this is a building that would go there and is not out of scale.
Motion
Motion to Hold for revisions. (Pohl)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
14. 42 Union Street LLC 42 Union Stmt Nvw house 42.12 -28 E-th,40 M4Morrow
11. 42 Union Street LLC 42 tnioo Street 0600 garage 42.3.2 -28 Ethan AkMorrow
Sitting
Williams, McLaughlin, Coombs, Pohl, Leonardo
Alternates
Camp
Recused
None
Documentation
File with associated plans, photos and required documentation.
Representing
Ethan McMorrow — Asked this be held after the hearing for 27 Hinckley Lane
Public
None
Concerns
No comments at this time.
Motion
Motion to Hold for March 3. (Coombs)
Vote
Carried unanimously Certificate #
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Motion to Adjourn: 9:29 p.m.
Submitted by:
Terry L. Norton
Nantucket Old Historic District `Sconset Old Historic District , IA Old Madaket Village
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OTHER X.
Approve Minutes
Sept. 30, 2014: Held
Tarmary 29, 2015, February 3 and 5, 2015: Motion to Approve. Coombs 3 -0 /Williams & Leonardo abstained
Review Minutes
Feb. 10, 2015
Other Business
None
Commission Comments
None
Motion to Adjourn: 9:29 p.m.
Submitted by:
Terry L. Norton
Nantucket Old Historic District `Sconset Old Historic District , IA Old Madaket Village
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