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The meeting was called to' arder at 7.:02 PM in the large Graup
Instructian Raam af the Nantucket, High Schaal. Cammissianers
presen't we....e William Willet, Pet,el'" DUnWiddie. Lt!iuraHussey, Dan
Kelliher, Henry Wasierski ,DQ.naldVisca, Peter Wilson. AlsO'"
present were Bruce Pe....ry, Administratar and Lucia Weyth,
Secretary:.
The Cammissianers were palled and vated unanimausly ton'ga'
immediately into Executive Sessian~
A.. EXECuTIVE SESSION
1. Litigatian
2. Appraval 0'1' Minutes3anuary 17, 1991
The apen meeting was recanvened at 7:58 PM
II:. cot1I"IENTS AND 'QUESTJONSFADHPRESSAND: PUBLIC
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1. Richards - 25 East Tristram Ave~ - SE4B-609 - (31-1)
. Present far the applicant i sHr. Shugrue who asks the,'
hearing be cantinusdf'o.... additional infcu:matian.
MOTION: To continue ,for additianal infarmatian is
made and secanded.
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2. Greenberg - 21 E. Tristram's Ave. -- SE4B-557 - (31-3)
Present for the applicant are Melissa PhilbriCk, Attorney,
and 30hn Shugrue.
11.... Perry shows a revised plan which requires a waiver to'
change the lacatian of the septic system. Asks why the well
has to be located sa far away.
Mr. Shugrue answers to' pratectthe well, because the
septic system on the adjaining 10ti5 verycl05e.to the ditch
which could break. He adds that the ditch crassing will be
with a small ditch witch (a 4" ditch needed).
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111"'. Perrysu9gests they r'equest a minor mQdificatipn, to.
replace erodin9 wood stairs with al.um.inum. '
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Attorney Philbrick says she will talk to the Greenbe"'4J'~
about it.
Mr. Perrysti9gestsit be added to the 'amencled.order as'a -
conditian.
Attorney Philbrick !$ays she wau1d prefer the order were
amended without the condition and due to' Mr. Greenberg's
special needs sheneecisto talk with then; instead a lett;er be
written suggestlngaluminum stairs..
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MOTION: Ioclo~e.thfi!f1eilringand draft an. amend~~
order to change,1:he!i1!ptic'loct1atiGn was: made andt'~1
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'3'. Gi llesp ie - 40 Easton Street -- SE48-641
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Present for the applicant is!JohnShuCjJ1'"ue~
, Mr. Perry says h.,'has. Pha'toso.f thee)(ist~ng bUlkheac(iand .
'it ls;, in needof,repalr.' 'Recammetnd.the ordef"H:)eh.sued:.~'s
drafted.
Mr. Willet ,asks.if there are any groins ttutte and what
technique....ill be used.
Hr. Perry says there are a couple.
Mr. Shugrue says he hopes to' be using plastic wood and he
will nat be replacing the groins at this time.
MOTION: ToC'i.ase the hearin9 and issue the order as
drafted was made and ,seconded.
UNANIMOUS
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Present far ,the appli.cant is Attorney Meli.,aPhilbriC;k,;
Susan Trull, of Horsley, Witten, Hegeman; and Robert Emack af
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Nantucket Surveyars. Also, present are the applicants,' Mr. and
Mrs. FreeftlanRobinson.
Mr. Willet reads the inspection report.
Dr. Dunwiddie adds that he would 'I ike ~o know the
maintenance schedule for the fence line.
Attarney Philbr-icksays there is an error an the plans;
the wire 'fence onon~ side is shawn as 4' high, two wire
plastic; shauld be 6' high, 3 wire plastic:, all around the
property. She makes the cha~ges to the plans and initials the
change.
Mr. Perry says anabut~er was in the off,ice to inquire how
much of the fence is to' be past and rail.
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,A~torney Philbrick $aysthey wE!re working it out wi th the
ab_ut~eT'santhatroad}it d~en~ed <>8' lot an/the terrain; was
not .rtecess.rilygoing'~.Oibf!c:onti nuou.ly ,sp lH:rail-.-~
Cantinues the intent~.f':t~eprajec,tisto stophuriters from
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baundar ies. Al though'itw'i;ll'not prevent! .hun'ters1'ram comi"CJ
ontO" the property it Will be a visibledeter",ent. Says they
feel th,ata :wl,"re, f'ence, ',.w,.','i,,',..',.,,1',I, ":ha, 'Ie lessim,pact, on the wetland.
The ather aspect of t"eproject is to put some boulders an the
beach to stop beach traffic. >Nates another.change from the
original plan is the bould,ersare .,torun from the bottom af
the bank to' meanhigh water rilther .thanmean low tide. The
purpose of the boulde1-sis to ,keep peaple and vehicles from
coming clase to the edge 0'1' the bank and causing erasian to
the bank.
Ms. 'Trull says there a number of wetlands on the site
which they have flagged . Thecaastalportion will, not be
affected by the fence because i tstarts" up on top 0'1' the
cO,astal bank; the inland.'wetlands, which is more or less one
continuaus wetland,~iswhat has been flagged and they have
only shown where the fence will come through. What is mainly
affected is wildlife. , Says plastic woad with three str-and
wire will btt used and that small animals as well as smaller
deer will be able to crawl under. Adult deer can leap up to'
7'. Therefore, it won't bean impedance either to' deer ar to'
other wild life. Some brush cutting to put in the fence will
be necessary but it will be done by hand and the fence will be
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installed with a hancf d.ig;g~,riand,they willav~;i;dany trees so
that the habitat isn't lost:". The idea is to cut sufficiently
to put the fence in, not ,to' make it,awalkil'lg path.
Dr. Dunwiddie asks if it will be maintained after the
fence is put in.
I1r. Emack says brushcuttingmairr~~nancemwi11be dane
mainly to keep the fence in goad ,shape; willbeappraximately
2' , mostly an theRab i nsop side.
Mr. Rabinsan says the fence will be set 3' in from their
praperty line and it will be cleared only for maintenance.
Mr. Wasierski says he would, ~ike more specifics ,an the
line of boulders.
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I1r. Perry says the,high<water linecomesr:ightto the
bottom af,th~ bank.. Th~<R\()!!Ot,~tley wi 11 ge~.'in>,is\pne rack on
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all the way 'from 'Pacqmoeqint.They 'll.have, tp come a long
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Mr. Wasiersk iasks how the '" boulders are going to be set.
Dr. Dunwiddie says, ~c.u:~~..:i~gfromthe stabi 1i ty af most of
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Mr. Emack says a small "loader wi 11 be braught in at law
tide.
111"'. Wasierski says ,he would hate to' see some typeaf
groin.
I1r. Perry says he do~sn'tthink placing 2 baulders will
serve their purpose; itwan'tkeep peqple fram gaingaround
the rock a.nd into ttaebank. Thinks it,will cause a lot af
di$turbance on the b~achQr:-iving f'rom PacamoPoint to'. put ane
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I1r. Wasierski. notesJ::he plan doesn't shaw the base of' the
bank--onl y the top, of1;l::u~;bank.
Attorney Philbrick says they plan to lay the boulders at
about a 4' separation and it would take 2 or so an each side.
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Mr. Emack says t"here is not more than 10 '0 to high tide
line a~dagrees it will take 2 boulder~ at tha most~
Mr. Visco says they wi II have a prablem ge,tting a Chapter
91 permit far the boulders; it won't effectively do what' you
want and e'ffec;tively i-t will work as a grain.
Attorney Philbrick says that is why they are going to' keep
it at mean high water or abave.
Mr. Wasierski says he is afraid they will act as a groin
and interfere as well with the abutters.
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Mr. Robinson says at high tide is when it would affect the
erosion of the bank becau$e, people: wi 11"no1:go,'af,"0\And,amd
erode the bluff'; at low tide they obviously stay'. dQ:wn",low ,and
gO' faster along the beach.
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Mr._ Robinson s.aysthe vehicles dan'.t dO'. muchharm<.t law
or m_iumtides;it,is at high tide when the daA\jt.geisdaneas
t,he" vehicle:s1;ry pas:sage aAd thetire~acks are literally
right into the base of' the bluff. The tracks,becCluseof'the
saft' clay, .,are so deep and stay 1'01'" so long that the. bluff
then tumbles down, particularly during a storm, causing
eraslan. At law tide she daes nat believe thereis.aproblem.
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Mr. Willet says we will need more detail including a lacus
map.
111"'. Wastersldaskswhere is the access to' the Rabinson
property. Haw do people travel that area at high tide. Says
there is a ditch back at Pacama; also"the beach is closed
from May 15 to October to vehicular traf'f'ic.
Mrs. Robinson says that is when we get most of' our
traf'fic~ in the ~inter_
Cammission notes there are a lot of rocks'in the area.
Attorney Philbrick says the point is to move them and get
it sa there is an obstruction at high tide.
Mr. Visco says you,may have a problem as it may be
perceived as a grain.
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Dr. Dunwiddle says. he would think if we specify themUmbe.r
of rocks and the spacing and the locatian, he doesn't think it
would be much of'a'problem.
Mr. Perry says a 4' spacing is gaing to be just 1 rack.
Mt. Wa_ierskis;ays we need a plan from high water 'to-'~1;he
base of the bank.
111"'. Perry asks if the commlssian is happy with 4,OOO'iOf
0' high fence. Notes the praperty line to the beach is about
2,OOO'10ng.
111"'. Wasierski says it isn't>2000' of wet'land; he dae~n~t
thi,nkwehave any ju....isdic:tion outside of the wetlands~..'l'';h.'>
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Mr., Perry says ,we have' to cansider whe,ther the.wil~ l~fe
_as (goi~ _t,obe..obstruc:ted... Deer,.lJlaynothav,e,trouble.i~l.aring
a6';fenc:ebyone faot>but they'sti 1:1 have overhangingl;,b1'11ushf
to'c:antend with~ Wildlife i.'ane .afthe interests .tabe)i!;.;i"
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Attorney Philbrick ",says there ,is also the".sect ion>~f.i!~,ii.t
railronc:e you get. out 0"; the.wetland. 1";~l",..i+'c
Hr. Waslerski saysmayi;)e we should ask'for a wild li:f;~'
assessment 0'1', the property.
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Attarney. Philbrick suggests Ms. Trull c:ould.
questionsin'that area.
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Ms. Trull says there area lat of' deer in the area Hbu,t the
deer have made their own trai Is thraugh the area and she'; "
thinks they will stic:k .to' those trails and take the pa~h '101'
least resistance and either, go through those sections, d1'.i!the
wire or go to the upland. She daesn't think it willb~ ~.
problem.
Mr. Wilsan asks why .was 6' chosen.
Ms. Trull says to be a sight distance; if it were ust a 3
ar 4' high wire hunters couldn't see it.
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Attarney, Arthur Re~de says he is here with Les Smith af
Daylor Cansultlngrepresentir-g Newquist, an abutter., Says he
,questionsthenetKtfor a feric;:e6' high. Believes itisgaing
to bea barrier to wildli"Fe,speclfically deer. Thinks a 3'
high fence wauld be high enough far people to notice. AlsO',
thinks that wires may' prave to be extremely da'ngerous because
the area is ovetgr:o.wn aria<the wires somewhat inv:isi.ble..He
thinks it could be dangeraustobathpeople and wildlife. As
far as the boulders are cancerned, they are pleased to hear
that the applicant has abandaned the request to' canstruct a
groin. They believe/the praject would be in Army Corps of
Engineers jurisdiction. Questiansbringing a vehicle in fram
Pocoma Point to' lay the boulders; says it isn't fishing,
fawling or navigation and he doesn't know afanything ;that
autharizes the use of the intertidal zone for the project.
Believes i tt,respasse!$ on<the rights of ,thepraperty awners
between Pacomo PO' i ntand the Rob i nsans .;Al so" were it done
f'rom the Robinson prpperty it would involve going across the
cnaS-ta 1 barik.-..and wou id l-e~~l tIn some damagE!' ' in the pracess.
"Mr.~ Smith says that anything that is done an a beach needs
--u'be--tooked at., Su~gfo!sU--&- fence at the basL.O.:fAbtL,QJtnk .!a
keep pedestriansand'vehicles f'rom disturbing,. the< bank rather
than boulders which mic;Jht cause possible problems. Also,
perhaps a spl'itrailfence f'or 1: he entire length of the
praperty wauld bea goad; alternative to keepIng hunters out.
Mr. 3ames Glidden representing Mr. Braaks says he has
learned that twoOf,thfo! lots C?wnedby Mr. Rabinson have a
restriction'thatnathing be constructed above graund.
Attorney Philbrick says she is aware af the deed
restrictipnand it 'is ,not anything,tnatwould be, included in
the present request b~cause it is 50 faraway f'rom,the
wetlands that it is not anything they were dealing with at
this time. She says they will deal with the abutters
directly; that it wasautside of theCommissian's
jurisdic1;ion.
I1r. Alvin Topham asks where baulders are to' be placed and
will they adversely affect the public's right to use the
beach. He opposes placing boulders an any beach.
Mr. Willet says he assumes at high tide it would restrict
vehicle traffic.
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Attorney Philbrick says they> have ..changed their request
and thfnks it now protects the publ,tc's right to' use the
beach.
Mr. Tapham says, the Tawn.. af Nantucket awns less, than twO'
milesOf'beach frantantheentire.island. Heoppases
anything that impacts-therightsofthe'publictaUsethe
beach.
Mr. Smith questions the wetland line delineatian.
Suggests an,averlay to $ee~"t!ther the east side has changed
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Mr. Smi th says the de,,,jation is nat large; offers to dO' an
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Dr. Dunwiddie,says th~r.~Clre hundreds of baulders. on that
_ _.--beach. He dj)JJbts_ i:[,a_ fe!'lJftj)~e are gaing to bather' arwone.
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Mr. Wasierski saystte,c:an1tsee where the access is to get
there a~ high tide.
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Mr. Perry suggests we neeg, more detail on the base af the
bank and an wildlife.
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Dr. Dunwiddie suggests staf'f.make a call to' the, Fish &
Wildlife of'fice. He would bet deer will get througtt the
f'ence.
MOTION: TO' continue the hearing far a file number and
further infarmation was made and seconded.
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door and that there are now new owners; notes that the list is
4pdated onlyonc~ a year. Says there was some dhicussion at
one pointabodt the two praperties'sharing the stairway but he
was notlnvolved In that discussion.
Mr. Perry says he did not inspect the site and,.,that the
, Comm'issionis familiilrwi th the location. Recammends,the
boardwalk be cantilevered atthetQp'ofthe-6ank":;"'--Notes"'the
stairs are aluminum and pressure treated woad is to' be used
abave the bank. Thinks the state may need proof of ApP4!ndix A
filing. '
Mr. Willet asks for a motian to' cantinue far a file
number.
MOTION: TO' cantinue the hearing fQr,aifile number was
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Present-i5,-At..<<n~,tle.y,..~thurReac;lef-' Mr ....,_Dayld_Hjljn~s.
Cansultant and Mr. Blackwell" Engi.,eer.
Dr. DunwJddie reads the inspectionreportwhicbs'says a
waiver is needed for" boththedrivewaycroasihgiandc,ithe<septic
leach facility location. The proposed cotta"e j.s..located an
top of the highest paint of the lat and willbevisiblefram
the road. Alat of Till is praposed to' be placed around the
proposed house.
Mr. Perry says he went back to flag *29 which. was attached
to a blueberr'y bush. Suggests 7' dif'ference 'in the wetland
boundary will be seen if' the flag is hung on the ather side of
the bush. Says it is a judgment call.
Mr. Willet questians the trench septic design.
I1r. Perry says the grade af the first floor to' the,grade
of' invert at the foundation is about 10' difference. Where
they could make, a change is to move the, invert up 10' and
increase the septic setbacks. This would require a waiver
from the Board of' Health. Also questions the amount of fill
needed. Notes the driveway is with~n the 25' buffer.
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tlr. Blackwell says' j.:~'wa,s ,aI:)Cllanc:ingact
separat'ion1'rom ground water,a~.\~E!p'ar'ation;rr;,
There is? 1/2 · separatic;mfram"thebottom()f;'."
the, ground water. In cansidering installaticn,."
rather ,than a trench he said thatdalthaughth~v'
varYirigsizes he, knows af none that, wauld h~ll~< ..
heightanc:l theref'are felt a trench was really,., "'toga.
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11.., . Perry notes that the building enveloP~(:illbP~tl&hv,rY'i'i:
imaginative and is on the highest paint af the<)!!tii~'tf:f~ts.apes
of'f very quickly. The driveway elevatian is'ab .i;li~.' There
is a large amount of fill gaing araund the fgum~lCt\'1;to
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asks if he can get rid of
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und~r' th~::appl iC"bleregU:la~~!~,,~'~;t~t!Y, can d~i!' 'if
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reduc;e,the amaunt af fill.
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'Dr . Dunwiddie says it looks like ,you 'V.iil~:~
polnt:iand braught everything up to. it.. Sugg
the point about B feet and sl ide; everything'
lower wauld, still have a spectacular view.
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1'11'" ., Perry says yau can, see the house and'1
,Polpis RC}l1ldand there is roam to move the '
, Com,issiton should not accept the design
ge'b':any worse than th is.
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owners i fi they wanttq use,ti'te pY"oper~y; to $~i~"
and ,sugge~ts that the Commi,ssion ~S5:o,~erstepp':i1,!
Jurisdiction when discussing building design."
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Dr. Dunwiddie saysyau can see it from all directians.
Adds he thinks Itc:anbehdesigned tastef'ully.
Mr. Willet suggests we ,should look at this as an envelope
but state the f'inal pl~ns are subject to our review.
Dr. DunwiddiE!,sa'ys,he,is nervausab9ut, that. If this gets
approved the, hause will be right up there.
Mr. Reade says there is nO' point an this lot that isn't
within 100' af a wetlandbaundary. They want to know what
reasonably they can d.o wi th this lot. Says it is nat their
objective to find the most aggressivepositian. What we get
from you as far as input at this first 'hearing can help us
came back later on w.i1;,l;lsomethingthat ,maywark a little
better. I'm more intt;!rested in hearingyaurcamments than I
am in trying to argue,;fara particular positian.
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Mr. Wasierski que~~iC)ns the setbacks and suggests that the
setbacks to the wetland bCJundary be placed on the revised
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111"'. Willet says the stairs, 'decks should be included in
the setbacks. "..'{.
Mr. Perry says he,$uggested the silt fence shauld go
straight across. Alsc:(the bui ldlrig envelope shautd include
all decks, cantilevers' and stairs. Mr. Haines didn't seem 'to'
think an envelope would include that at the field inspection.
Mr. Reade say.sother than height and envelope and f'i ll,
I'm not hearing ariy'other suggestions or criticism.
I1rs. Hussey asks how big the hause will be.
Mr. Reade says 1000 sq. ft.
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allowed by the Board of Health. Oneartw9 bedrooMs cauld
increase the setback by reduchig the size of the system and
a;lso',thef1ows,makiQg the trencb a little bit sh,orter.
Dr. Dunwiddie comments that by scaling dawn the system the
g1"'ea,~est imp.ct will be to' reduce the flows 1;hlt"aYcg~ the
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Mr. Haines provides a copypf' Appendix A filing far this
fi ltt"and the Oxbow file.
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To ,c;;:antinuefor further infor$at,ion and a
was made and seconded.
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UNA~IMOUS
""""P~b~~"R~:ity Tr., Sarah Alger - Palpis Rd. (4;6-1)
R~ade~ Mr. Hain.s4' COI1~lll:~an~
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Mr. Wil$qn ,says it loa,ks like part of it w.s:~*mmed and
part, of it w.s a 'farm pand. .
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hills; one i~ a five bedroom and,ane a two bedro~~ cattage.
Mr~ Haines says it would be difficult to dro~~hem; the
first f'loorelevat'ions areabaut 10' belaw Old P~Jpis Road
Realty Trust we just looked at. TO' drop them we'!would
actually be digging a hole.
MOTION: To continue for a f'ile number was made and
,,seconded.
UNANIMOUS
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* 8. Cameran - 30 ShawkemoRd. - SE48-643 - (27-2)
P....esent far the'applicant is Les Smith from Daylor
Consulting.
Mr. Perry saY$ the proposal is' tobU! td,aboathouse-ina
grassy area with 'beach access. When they bought the property
there was an envelope restricted for a boathouse. The
locaticin is within that envelape. Notes that they have
previausly discussed beach access with the Conservatian
Foundation. There seems to already be a path.
Mr. S.m~th, ~ay~ t,he plans are for a si~ple shed with ramps
coming off"; ,.,.
Mr . Perry suggt!.sts we limit b,rushclearirg., '
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made and 'seconded.
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D. REGULAR ttEETING
1. REQUEST FOR DETERMINATION
a. Weinman - 21 Caffln Street ...; (7:3.4:1:';"26)
Mr. Perry says at the .last meeting ,there was a discussion
on whether or nat there was a wetland as ar.esultaf,the catch
basins draining. Dr. "Dunwiddie visi tedthe;si te last Friday
and verified it is not subject to' the wetland Act or By;....law.
Mr. Willet asks fOTany questians orcamments.
110TION: To issue a negative determinatian was made
and secanded.
. UNANIMOUS
* b. Toole - 10 Village Way - (14--39)
Mr. Perry says this is for replacement stairs. He
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replacements to add any comments, they have f'iled a
determination.
111"'. Willet reads the inspectionrepart'andttae .Camml~sion
reviews photos submitted with the application.
MOTION: TO' issue a l1egCit,ive determinat..ion subject
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has found" thati"t,qE!;:l a~t>.t:ij. vE!"YE!arstlle.haye'ClPPr:q~E!d,ton 1 y,.:.",
onenegat ive' determlnat.ion": ti..h iCh'was"faia'dec.krePlacemEmt .
~_Eve,rYt;hinSl,,~! s~" wa,s,...Po.~~~'~,vi',an~i1f~eq.p;i l'"ed~i~.;t,ry.91~~~.~';,i c;!~Et; anly".,"i
notIces we, .,axeappraVE!c:lK.~u~t"e.re. "I,e,;. 1'a.r.~ept i c"f:~e:P lacelrients, '"
to rebuild onthesame,fQQt;g...int:,c)nd. t9.add a secand .flaor.
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Mr. Willet s~ys'~~ec:o"'f,I1~sSiOrl'PO~iCY out,on;S",i th "Point,.
has been to' ,hO Id,d:~;'~,~::;!'~ji?Si.,~~~:JE~;i:~'"~,~,, .". " i.' ',..
Mr. Perry.. s.ays:.tpE!\'.r:eB~~!it;;,.':i'~';:(pr~i~:;,:stuctio' and . .~' 2,'car ,-:,,;
garage. ,Saysthe'~L.&;nE!,~~~l,lj~~~~;jClt~oP:J"~.;a. ;lot :it'th~ last, fi've
or six years. ,Adds ,'thE!reiii!i'Cl,f'U~!i~io1'1whether this is
c:ansidered,abarr ierbE!clc"'.~,,~,;i'r ,f;;'::'{,ti~+':(
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Mr. ,Willet asksif't.t'1;e.~t;CltE!'hCls ever,definedlt.a!ii_ '
b'arr ier, beach ;b~lievfi!~t~,;,~!i7;k,~r1d,Of' a broadi nterpretc)~ian ~
Suggests we do riot knowwhe~her;it 'ls a barrier bec)ch but QUI'"
palicy has been nat to' allQ~'.lIlufl'l.'expa!"sianin this,area:o
MOTION: To issue, aposi~i,Ve determinatian was made
and secanded.
UNANIMOUS
d. Frost - 133, 135, 137 Eel P(:),ir't.;,Rd. - (33-11, 12, 13)
Dr. Dunwiddie abstains from the disc:ussionandthe vate.
Present far the applicant is ~r'thur Aeade and David
Haines.
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Mr. Willet reads the field inspection report.
Mr. Ha i nes says the hi II conta i ns dune sand. ,He doesn' t
feel 1:;he second ridge has migrated in the last 20 years,
because of the presence of the fence past and alsO' ,a pine
tree. Says it is unusual to see a bank come up as high as
that> and have' a dune an tap 0'1' it and have a'largf!.~1;&pi'and-c'
going intO' the dune. It looks like the dune hasmigra'ted
back. However, it does not supply sand to' the beach or ocean.
They are willing tare-delineate the area.
Mr. Reade says they need a line they can rely an as there
are number of factors to be considered in conne~tion with what
"hey are doing. Sugg~~ts, however,this would!,a,tpriE!c,ludti!
their caming back wittf a new NOI andarguingany,.PC3in~s'.~ithin
the context . Far purposes of what they are 'doipg-:.,c.w;;:the"(i
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made and 'seconded. 't'
UNANIMOUS
*' e. County Com.- 109, 111 Washington Ext.-(5S'.1.4-3B, 71>
Mr. Willet read!i. the inspection report.
Present for the applicant is Anne Lee.
111"'5. .Lee says she has natified.the()~ners:of,theiT: j"
prQposaland has talked wi th Dave Fransuto ttle,..~r~.,e' ',; .
Superintendent with regard to' what would be .the;,blE!st~Sf!O{;;:
the land. They want to keep the land unimpravec;l. '..' The.~ar~ne
Superintendent has agreed to' pal ice the area ona daily basis.
Parking will be far short term.
Abutter Tony Mello asks what their definitian is of' short
term parking.
I1rs. Lee saySii it is for beach and ,town parking.'
Mr. Mello says this has been talked about for a long time
but nothing has been accompli$h.d. The area has a history af
being used for business use. There are roads going through
there, fences up, trucks and boats parked there.
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". Mr.s~Lee says there has been a protracted period in trying
to' notifypeaple. Agrees there has been a delay in moving
ttils project but itis their'intentlon to' mave the'debrls out
of ther. as quickly as ,they can.
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M~s..-!Lee,says absolutely.
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'~'~;.;':'~','/I"I1; ':; Perry says he,sentild...a'ftorderto Mr~ Wi;leywha
-'~"Sque.$t!a,l1~, why he is 1 imlte~'tatt\tobedrooms.Heto ld him it
: ."as. part c:afthe giveandtakea",d if' he wanted to' Cliscuss it
'hef:Oul~ .CJo so heretonight:~ AJ-~()questions; fU4r~garding
na.~ural, vf!9.,tation between" the,w..t land andthepraiject site.
Saidriglit now it 'is 1,awnandhe':'W,alnts to be able to' keep it
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lawn~hEm the project is finished~'
to but will not alter' and
determination was made and
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that will be all right.
Mr. Wiley said he would talk to' Mr. Rowley and if' he
didn't have a problem with #18,it was fine atherw!ise.
MOTION: To issue the order as drafted and revise~#14
as discussed was made and seconded.
UNANIMOUS
b. Lang - 98 Tom Nevers Road"" $648-642 - (91-40)
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111"'. Lang asksabaut conditian#17 regarding structure
height.. S_ay~ the house is, ~esigned to be ,16' t.ligh fram' the
ft'nishec;C' grade but due to :pther posslblec ircumst.ances asks
the Ilmit be changed'to'18'; hisintentianis..to keep it as
low as possible.
Mr. Perry says there is a typO' in #4 which shauld say
siltation ar snow fence rather than haybale line.
Mr. Lang says he has a question about that. He c.n anly
extend the fence 20' to' the west; how far dO' we want it
extended.
I1r. Perry suggests a reasanable distance; it doesn't have
to go al L the way to the end.
I1r. Wasierskisuggests he make it asa U.
,.. MI'". Langh.s a_~rQble~....ith that as. the asphil1t . paveme.,t
is going to be removed and a'U'wauiaex-tend ~'''':tli';d' _.:
being worked. , 'Agrees it is a good idea, however, cmd that if
it can be opened lip whc:oni:he wark is goin.9...9!!_t_hatwil1be
o.k.
Mr. Lang also saysrelat,l",e, 1;0 heigt.lt rti!strlc;:tions he does
not want to limi t future redesign..
Mr. Willet says he cauld discuss any des~gn change at .that
time.
110TION:.TO ig,sue the arderwith natea changes was
made and seconded.
UNANIMOUS
c. Gi llespie
40 Easton Street - SE48-641 - (42.1.4-20)
Present far the applicant is John Shugrue.
Mr. Perryrecammends the order be issued as drafted.
Mr. Shugrue says be will beusin9 plastic woad and is
happy wi thth.drafting of the Order .
MOTION: To issue the orc;ler as drafted was made and
seconded.
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3. CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE
a. Cabral - 62 Miacomet Avenue, SE48-503 - (67-353)
Mr. Perry states that he has not' inspec1:~~__1:t:!..E!_~,!~E!,",___
b. Kane - Cambr i dge Sic Lang Pand Dr. ,SE48-333<,( 59.4-15. 1 )
Mr. Perry says this is na.t in campliance. Theorder.was
never recarded. Dr. Ounwiddie asked him to laakinta it while
they were' inspecting anather lat out~here.Says,there really
is nothing .we can do as the three years havee'lapsed. .. The
praperty has changed hands and. the.'newownerdoesp,.tJ:<now
anything about it and the Order ,was never recordE!~~;"~+"'!' ;""
Mr. Perry says theapi)licanthas to' act withi,n 21\days of
submitting a request forcomplia"ce.
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Mr .Ha ines's~ys .' there w ~ll be vegetation comi ng.6a~:Ic:,on
the bank in the spr i ng .; There · was " damage dane whem,:t;hi!:fence
was put in.>'["
Mr. Perry suggests rather than cantinuethey' Wlfthcltaw and
resubmit~heirrequest.
MOTION: TO' accept' the request to' wi thdl"a~..:t",e,request
and come back at a later date in the summerwasfllai:leand
seconded.
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UNANIMOUS
d. ,Kaye - Top Gale Lane - SE48-567 - (27-7)
I1r. Perry 5aystheapPl icant has to act within 21 days of .
submitting a request for-compliance.
Mr. Haines says there wi 11 be ve,~.,tation'caming back an
the bank in the spr i ng . .Therewas c::t..ge done when the fence
was put in.
Mr. Perry suggests rather than continue they withdraw and
resubmit their request.
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MOTION: To accept the reques1: to', withdraw the request
and caine "back later in the summer' was 'made and seconded.
UNANIMOUS
e. Cranberry - West Chester Stveet- SE4S-425 -(41-227)
Mr. Perry says the applicant has to aC,t within 21 days of
submitting a request far compliance.
Mr. Haines says there will be vegetation coming back on
the bank in the spring. There was damage done when the fence
was put in. Also nates the replication area is toO' high and
damage was dane to the pipes.
Mr. Perry suggests they pull the silt fence around the
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One is very wet. The other, which was higher, was slightly
we~ It was tt:ut..i.r-i nt.ent to sepal'" a.te-the..-bla-b\L1.a i s ingQne__
a.,it doesn't have'4s Inuch of a connection to the wetlands
although it is similar to the wetlands.
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resubmit their request.
MOTION: Tb accept the request to wi,thdr.aw the request
and come back in the summer was made ,and secanded.
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4. OTHER BUSINESS
a. First Winthrap - SE48-579 (42.4.1-23,24,25)-pest plan.
. Mr. Perry says we have received a I ist of pest,icides and
that it is similar to the previous one. 'He is trying to get
the sail conservation department give usa re.dingon it. It
is, supposed to be in befor-eApril and they are going to sta....t
working aut there soon.
I1r. Willet suggests we hold off until we get ,a response
from soil conservation service.
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b. CauntyCommissioners-HuminockPondaccess
I1r. Willet asks about the gravel issue.
Mr. Visco says the road to' Hummock Pand is a legally
acc~ptedpublicwayand theCMRreg\Jlationsa....e quite specific
and the Nantuck'Ettby":law1"a II o'W$~;t"'Efsame' guide 1 h,es~ Says
that widening i,s pe....missible und,ermaintenanc:e, and thEtDPW
didn't even have to file a request to' get the way apen.
I1r.Gardnersayswhat they did was clean the ditch out and
spread the dirt an the path.
Mr. Alvin,Topham asks what the prablem is.
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Mr. Willet says, he thinks the side of the path is a little
wider thanw~e~pected for a hand cut path going down to the
pond.' We'havt! oa:;objection to' access_ ~o the pand,', .we were.
justtrYingt;~C)keep it,minimal."-----r '-, ~~- -
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ramp to get dow1;'ainto:the'pond far fishingaJl!:i,faw1 h~CLin Tawn
i'1eeting twenty years ago. The width as it is now is ,minimal
to meet, the ori~iral intent 0'1' why;.there is a public way there
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I1r..Will~t~ays'at:thispoint Weare just interested in
stab 111z ing, 'theiroad.'
Dr. Dunwiddiesa,y~ the sand. is washing away into the pond
and we are laoking for something that will stop this.
Mr. Gardner ..says they planned on spreading loam and
seE!ding the path~
Mr..Viscos~ys that grass W,il1 'not grow where the vehicles
are driving.over. That should bestabi.lized with crushed
s tane . It needs to' dbear,oad.. ~i,$'C;an(:ern is that it i so ' t
big enough and people are restricted.from getting to' thepand.
,Mr. Perry says roadse~isting priqr to April 1, 1983, you
could expand r.oads under limited project., This raad wasn't
canstructed in 1983.
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Mr. Visco disagrees cammenting that the DPW daes not even
have to' came to the Commission for permission if the road was
'leg,ally, laid out on paper.
Mr. Perry states that having a road an a map is nat the
same as it being const~uc::ted on the, graund. Therefore this
work is subject to' regulation.
Mr. Willet asks Mr. Gardner if he is introducing expansian
to the praposal.
Mr. Gardner says they want to make it look like a raad,
put gravel on it.
Mr. Willet asks far
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110TION: To stabilize the raiad byadd,ing 3" of' gravel
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Mr. Perry says in themiddleOf"~.br\Jary he:sentMr.
Sarvis a letter saying that his ard.er'hadexp:iredand.-Sking ,
him to come in and start talking about f'lnishingthe project.
He received no response and the next.~ayitwasin'the paper
that he was ready to, go. and Ii tigate'..gain!it us. He'has
drafted. a f'armal letter to delineate..,ha'ticwewallttodo. The
lacal order and the superseding arde'l'":,danat 'have great
differences and DEP has told him to' pur.ue arespanse.
I1r. Willet asks for a motion to sign the letter as
drafted.
MOTION: To sign the letter as draf'tedwas made.and
seconded.
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d. PolpisBikepathfield inspectiaTl Aprill3, 8:30 AM
e. Nash - Easton St. - SE48-269 (42.1.4-6) replenishment
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Mr. Visco
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Mr ~ Perry notes this appl icant has not yet rll!quested a
certificate of comp1ianc:Et. At th~.s time Mr. E~ac:k is
requlesting permission to rEi!plenishbeac:h sand,:~tt9...nd the
bulkhead. Notes that a gabian has;, bti!enadded ,at+ane end.
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Mr. Emack. says thegabion at the, west end, isn~ t doing too
bad though it is com~ng around the back samewl1!1f:r' ,Ttle. east
end'needs beach replenishment. AlsO' says ititistarting to'
slump bti!tlindthe bUlkhead--iswas.,ing out throt,l9hthe
bulkhead. Would like to plant same beach grass'tl:',aere.
Mr. ,Perry says he believes on the aldordEi!rsi: there is an
ongoing candition to allow beach nourishment.
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Mr. Willet.asks,how much, he interidsta dump there.
,-,~Hr--Emack es.timate5-B. ..c.aIJp1.e_'af :tru~~ 10ac,!S+~10' to' eo ~u.
yds. But notes to dO' a complete re-nouri~hment",wauld be
about 1500 cu. yds.
Mr. Visco sa",ysyau wi, l"l,! h, a,'.ve,.,..".,t",o d,,4) sameth,in,.., ,g'more
permanent. than, re-nouristl~,!lti ~~~#..usethe sa~e.t~ ing will Just '
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Mr. Emac,k says. that.' s~,IJ~t~1:h~y.,ayedonE! a1:i,the other Ei!nd
by add ing thegaban but ,i t>~,as,:just 9o~ behiln~i~he bulkhead.
Maybe they' will jUsthaveto.da,a. C;ontinua 1 1'"1epl~~ i s;t'tme"t.
Suggests anotherpossibil~ty, is,,;toput, boulder~ :,~ut 'there to'
pratect thepoin~. . .
Dr. Dunwiddie asks all the, way to the lighthouslt?
Mr. Wasierski says a be,tter idea would be to take
every~hing out of there and let itstabilt"Ze.
Mrs. Hussey asks why dan't you 'just remove it.
Dr~ Dunwiddie asksif>there hasalwaY1i,beenbulkhea.cls
there.
Mr. Wilson says nO', there used to' be dunes with bulkheads
behind the dunes.
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Mr. Visco says there ,is rip rap around Brant Point
underneath the sand.
.. MOTION: To allow the request to' replenish araund the
bulkhead ends was made and seconded.
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Dr. Dunwiddie says,>a respanse. cauld, give the appearance af
our being biased ,agaiDst ,the project. ,".\Calltionsany,letter
should be phrased.that these, are our cC)1'1cernsbasedonour
previQus hearings. . Ana.ther way wauldbe to' have the letter
~$.lgned--by, Mr., eet:I:.v. ancL...ntle.cL as >concernsfrom . an
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lettef" "was sent by.Mr.McKelwayand'did.nat,ref'lectthe
comndssion's feelings when the comments had been reviewed by
the Commissioners.
Commission suggests the letterclear'ly state the camments
are based on previous hearings. We should make sure the
questions are not new,ar, if' sa, are braken aut and sonated.
5. CORRESPONDENCE
6. MINUTES: for March 7, 1991
Mr. Visco notes that on the Polpis Bike Path Dr. Dunwiddie
abstained but participated in the discussian. Suggests it be
changed to say that he abstained as a cammissioner but his
expertise was requested.
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MOTION: TO' accept the minutes with noted change was made
and seconded.
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BILLS TO BE PAID
FIELD INSPECTIONS Monday,
MOTION: To adjourn the
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April 1, 1991, 4:00p.
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