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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 25, 1988
*** ADDITIONP~L MEETING FOR NA..l\JTUCKET l'llETLA~roS REGULATIONS ***
A. PUBLIC HEARING
1. Nantucket Wetlands Regulations - final public hearing
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes of February 25. 1988 P3ge 1
MINUTES O:F FEBRUAEY 25. 1988
*** ADDITIONAL M,:::E'l'E-JG FOE NANTUCKET WETLANDS REGULATIONS :.;.ct: I.
The public hearing of Febr~ary 2~, :988 WaE called to order at 7:33 PM
in t.he Nantuc1:et Elemer:t:,?1ry Schoc 1 Libra.ry. Members presen-t:
we:r"e: I)E~tel- ~J. l)urn.;iddie - C~t:aiYr:1arl t I.ee [}.c.nll, Williarn v-Jille."t ~
Granville Cl~anst()n, Her:~-y itJasierski and Ca:::-l Borchert.. Members a.:'senL.
were:
DCir:ald. Vi~c(;.
F.'i~l.i.rJi.5t~"',3.~(r!." ;.)rE.ser~;:: Ejen Mcl(e.lvJay *
T'C'\A.irl (~cl:JnEe.l
};lresent:
Paul :::leEeLS 2. 5 .
A. PTJBL.IC :-~:E:AF~~I\JC;
1. l~ant.\.:ck_et \\T8tlal-llj~=3 Re-.gula:t:.or~5 - f i:lal pubiil2 hea:=i:1g. (-.i-.:Eii:.:::n,~~.~
Peter Dunwiddie opened the hearing by asJ~ing for a motio~ tc
accept the second revised draft. Lee Dunn made ~he motisn.
sul)rni i:t_E~(: l1i_s S1..:.gg~ested arnei.!d.rnents t.e; the
prc~c~eded to go over them pC1int oy pOln~.
secol:ded the mo~iOD.
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ACu'Tl':"1-~i5trat("r Ben J\1(~KE<1\,r~~)' revie~.Ned a memo r~e [;.a(j sent l,e tr~e
(:;c.rnrnission a.at.ec.~ ~Fet~. 17, :988 c~:1d aQ{:.re:=.setj tl-1e ~. qu,est~icr.;,s ~,~.:
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CeT't~ficates ()f Conpliance? Yes. this is incl~dej in ~h~ E:yl~~.
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes of February
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1988
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f.;,. Do v.:e neec. -::0 specify In the reg1.11 at ions ,=:!:" the
t~e boundary of a wetland lS the l~~e w~~nln wnlC~
mOI'e of the vegetational con:''1runi ty consists cof the
s.l)8cies iden::i.f ied in 1:.118 'itZetlancs Prc:tectic:n Act.'?
varies from appiication to application.
BylavJ that
50 pel-cent or
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Tt/tlet...Land j:.1 arlT.
No. 'tr:lS
rri1e hearir:;.g \,.25 rle:~:t Ol=;erled l.lp fc'l.-- publ ic ccrr~r::er:t. Jc)ar~ne
HOldgate. N.=mtucket Tc.."n Clerk. asked ",r1:ether an appeal
p~oced~re had been provide.j for. Lee D~nn said it had been
v..Tit:t.en i!ltO t.11e E~,~:,law iJ1 secticJrl 3-(; }:;)-:" Tc;~:rl C(j~lrl~el [JeRensi:=..
Peter Duru~iddie added his support and a~ip~eciation for
[Je.Reris.is 1 ~~o~J: ():-l pulli:1g c.~.1t. G:f the dr:3.ft. reE.~t~l2.t.ic'rl:='
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i t.ems w11ich rnc)re a:pp:r.~c'1=)r.iat.el y~ l)elc)ngecl in the rc-,rrn of C~n
~E}ndrnent to t.r-le }Jari"t;].ci-~E t hTetlands B~.7 ,1 aw..
Ms. Holdga-::e continued by hi~hlighti:r~g L-V.!O cor-~cerns -::nat =::ne
he.d nad since the o~~!ening:,f trle public hearings Sept. 17,
1987; 1) the ap'peal proce:3c> is -::0:::; ezpensi\73 ci:1C cumbersome
for most a~'plicants to deal with. She respectfully suggestGci
~he Cornrnissi::Jn rrL3J~e all effc.r~s -:'0 v.1'C:l....j: Oll1:- c~:)mr:'r()raisE=s T.A!.:_t}-l
6pplica~t5 so as t.o avoid the ha~ds~ip3 of going t:: COUy~.
4-1 ) t~ari-::uclt~~~t. S..~1Fterio::'" C:('~u:.--: c:;::} y :rieet~s on .3 ~imi "t.ed :),3.sis. ~r,
t.rlE~ I11o::-e t.!-le Ccrnlnissic:-;. car: !:J.c' t.() 2\TC;~ic. la.v!S11i t~s, tr1e b~t-te~.
Carl Bo~chert =eferred her. to page 9 of the drart - ~aive=s at
RE~;~\:ireme~.~s - w~ich ~e ttlsught would come into ~,lay in 5crr.e
'::a.3?-'"~S .
Peter ?~u~5er asked~
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?eter Du~w~d6ie sala he expe2~9d walver~ wc~l:j be ra~e.
F~c;r)ert. ~),5.1.""V:"~i .:if :B::'an"t. F'(~i:-~1:. Corpc1rCl.icJn ar~d t~aDt.j.1C}:E:.t C:GrrJ:';-Jrl~.
TrU5~. made two poi~~s: _I He thc'ugh~ ~he new regulations
aF'pe.?41....ed t.o .3.11o'~] the (':()rrJT[i~,~: ion to rn.~ke arbi ~.rary decis ic:ns
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes of February 25. 1988 Pege 3
which Cen give rise to more lawsuits and legal aC~lon. He
thought this '"wuld be unfair to some applicant.s ,,,ho do not nave
time or money to spend or: legal fees if there are problems with
Commission decisions. 2) He questioned why tr:e C0r11nissio:1 reI t
it had to i~prove on ~he state regulations for septic se~6acks
considering the DEOE has spent years and thousands of doliars in
research proving that 50 feet was adequate to protect wetlands.
Petel~ Dunwiddie responded by giving tI1e reasons for Cidded
conserva~i5m here O~ Nantucket with regards to protecting i~s
wetlands. He said many Cape Cod tOiA,Tl3 have 100 ft. sepl.ic
S8L.bac];:s ana tha',: the state avercge of 50 ft.. Goes r;e:t L.c.ke int.o
account: the sandy soj.1 s of t.he Cape and the I s.land3 '\-,hieh
dictate greater c2ution. Ied Ti~lotson wanted ~o know the
scientific basis of the 100 fte setback. Peter referred to the
Perl:ir:s-Jorde,:) calculations used in .:;: s~udy cf ":he Islcnd' s
water table~ sponsored by the Town of ~antuc]:et and the
Nantucket Land Council. Hr. Tillotscr" cid not ttink -:.he
findings were s~fficient ~o supersede DEQE's regulations.
J~r. T.:.llot.son also claimed -chere is no definition of wet:anc1 In
the draft regulations. while the DEQE definition is raLher
le:-lgth~l. Ee cCTnrnencec t.l"18 C~c)I11rnissiorl f':;r \)~That. rle SRV-.f as t:~e.:..r.g
2/3 of the final product, nowever he did not feel the
C()rru~issioner'5 \\Tere. l:~rofE's~ iC;l.:als and \-.rere O~.l"t.stel:}:pirlg t:.rlelr
;:)C.lUrlCS b~{ iml;)C;sirlg cert~ain ~-egul~ticll1S Vorl-lien cve::-ri~-Je DEC1E.
F'E:ter J:~'C\ inte,:l OLl t triat '.~1€-:'t:.l ands are ,3.;:3.equat€~1)1 def il:{:=::l \.J:' t.!-:':':-l
the definitio~s of the many types of wetlands conta~~€d i_~ the
ll.raft.. 211 a.jc~.i~ic;r1, C:crrl F?;:<t'ct.e]~t Ci~t.E:d a tat:.,l_e ifl ,3 :c'e;)c:-..~ ('~-1
100 ft~ se~ba::]~s O~ ("ape C!~d t:;~ms.
ltl:r". T illc;t :3C!D ~. 2: 2-<:~ :le
S\.:;)1:)c.:rt.S(1 the old r2shic:f.i.eC idea cd: cOl:stituT.:i;1g ,3. T_dr:.::...r:g ",';11~'!: 0
l,l:;t is 1...1r~}:.uild..::.:...t)1~: 'r b1_;-::~ t.;;'C.llgl-lt. t',.rie :-..8'\1t.: l.....eg:-=.12..i.:ic;r.if; T~,,"el"e
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to brGa~e~ lltlga~~sn.
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l:)f CG11.texts e.na. asl:.ed :E::~r r'ec(",)gni~.:ic:I1 of -:.l-lE"~ r:I'cJa.der SC(:i;;C~ ::.f
v\71lat -the :-le,..., :::-egt:l.6til)DS ~~re ;:ryir-lg tel ~jc;. In tryir.:g tc.
st:r~erlgthen m.3.n~l of the Towr-~ })ocirdz. his (";ft ice ~ad '!.lnc:e~~1':'.31.:.erl
t}-le re-wri tir-.:.g of f.,orne sf 7~hej~r \laricJt.'i.s Acts. Regulatic:1L3 o.r:':1
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes of February 25, 1988
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Bylaws. He had viewed this as a wonc~rrul oppcrtuni~y ~o help
the Conservatio:-l Corruni SSiO:l in doi:r.g its diff icul t job bett'.e:r,
lend i"t s.trength and to red-:'1ce 1...1. tigation. Since the State
Wetlands Protection Act is somewhat general and limited in
scope, Nantucket's local byla\.;s are needed to gi'Ie e;.:tra
pro~ecticn ~o o~r special types of habitats or conditions.
DeRensis stressed -chaT. the r:.ew rtegula-tions should help to
cle.rify the Commissi,:m I s o',.?e:.~all interest ir. protecti:1g the
Island's wetlands to applicants.
(~onser.\;~2.t.i()!l C~(;mn~i2.:3 ic~r;. i i:'5e1 f .
developers,
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COIltinued by pointing out some n~
tte rnan)7 (jefi:1i tions ir.i t.118 draft.
t~-le legal
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j.~creased complexity and scientj.fic basis of its contents
indic,ated stel=-~s in tlle rigr-~..t. dire-ctior:. If tr1e ('Ci!Tlil1issi:-::11 :1r::.:e<J.5
to add to or amend t~1e Reg~lations at a later date. it is always
l=-'cs;:\:'l")le t.el do so, J:rLl~ -::f18 ::3.cc-:~"TIerlt ir.l its cur-rerr+.:. fc,::--m is ~D
e:;.:celJ.ent sta:r"t. He defe:1(j,ed the Cc'n':nissil.)fl' s ~.i2".e cf t.he
=escurces offered by the tJant~cket LaDd Council and othe= p~b~ic
or ~1rivatE groups, so as to represent a broader ccnse~sus ,:f
>:r~c-~/l1edge. lrji th regards tc; IvIr. rrillc,t3cr: f S alle:gat.i::;n the::'
litigation will inc~ease, M:~. DeRensis felt the Regulatio~s
.y.7c:';~~:~d irlsteBG =-educe t~hE: :::-isJ:s of unpl~edic"t.a}:)le "}:-esu.l-::s t!:J:-(~":1gl-l
grea~2r c12rity a~d the setting of standards.
lVIr. }'i2.1ol:s~:!n irlSi::.t.8ej. t.na-:: tl-~e St2~te:s ~:10 C~Iv.c~ \:lE.-::larlGS
:\.eg"L:~~atior~s v.7e~E~ c'::mplete erlC}l..lgh a.lld the Cornrr;i.ssi()!""~ ~1a3
z.e::,i01.1S ~is-t.:.aJ:e T.~)i.i:1g t.e ir~;p:''''c;'\ie -u};'c'n t.hem by adc;;'i.:irli~
'~C:::J.S i;jE:'~~e(: a:tl i::c.:~r:1.r:'.l e'te 3 ~.t c~ f 1,:\ :::.3_1 reg.....:i 2:C.lC::-i S . !~'Ir .
::'t.~ 5, ~'.":~'~-;de (:: 'c~y s ,::fj,T i rIg i:l-~Et t Eil --:-..:.'i-.: CJ'J gJ-;. t r-.;~ E tc:t.€ Re gula:r.=-cl-;:l S
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~.e~g~l:y~ ~hey give minimal ~:~otecti~n to Nant~lcj(etls wetl~::d3
a.::~J l-..e -:}-..E~J..-e f eII'E- ::: 'G1='pci:.::--te d 7}-l e C~':'::'lo?Ti S 2: i (;:1 ! S ~::e.3 i:......i,? -7- ,i j.E' f .:..:-: t~ 2.:'";
grea_ter de~ai: the inte~e5ts ~o b0 prc:~ected.
r.-i2_;-11~ ':~:C\C!Tl;~.3 2-;:~e.::.]':i:1g as 2~ l:'l":;..'\'-d"t.e cltJ.::e:-i S1...:}:ll:'(.! 7." "t. e c, ~:~E:
(:orrt,l1issiC)"D! f:. =-igl-~t: -:':.() e~xp.2.:-:d ::,ri t:.he s't'>3te reg1Jl\3-:-':O:-~s.
--:.l-~e I1E(JE gi \7E,S tc!~~.rr-~s t~t.e l)(;~ISr to,) rnc_na3t..e their C>\J.T:1 lav:s
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,,\i,rit:.h -:'~-j,e l::aseline c.f state la'\ATs. In t:r~is WC::."}'. "t.':'~'"",ll~ ..::a:1 '''-''err'.
with and add ~o their ow~ sets c~f bylaws and ~aintain an aC~~.je
cCJ!:serat.io:1 a't~"arer~eS5 irl the tc:~"n.
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes of February 25, 1988 Page 5
RobE;r-c Sarvis was p~.l2z1ed by the Cl rrerences betvleen the tc'",n
and state definiTions and felt ~hi5 would lead to ccn~usion for
apl=}li':a:lt,s. l~r. l"!illc;-:,scl.':. using tl1€ definition c:f vlet ;nea.j('~:~J
as a~ ex~nple, agreed ~h2t some definitions are cODtradicto~y
when c0n1pared with the state regulations. Carl Borchert poin~ed
out t.h3t in some cases. Nant~cketfs wetlands are not covered Ly
the st.ate regulations, such as In the case of 5maller isolated
or non-tI0~deri!1g wetlaDds.
Na~'lt..';_:c}.:e~ .
These and others a=e special to
P1:i2. 3artlett wa~~ed a cla~ificatio~ of the defini.tion of
we~la~d scenic views.
If 5orn6c.ne v.72nted t() tYl1i.ld 20 !.1~'1_tSes
.3.1C~I':g. H1J.:Tu~OCJ.: PCi:1C arid t;;ose l-;c:uses c)bstructed the -,::iew cf the
J?C)~-l{::'! ~JJl:)ul~:l trle (~cn..rr:i~sif~:-: l-~a",1e ar::y" ju::"isdictic,:J. O'-,~E'r t-hem7
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l:;c:r:~hex.-t. said that ~he (~0rrunis3ic'n 1 s j~.1risdi~~t.ic;~ is r9ally
or~l)' ,.",7:...:j-~i.rl. 10U ft. or a \~etland 2.S it is defined C.rlc t.tle m.3.:':1
goal is to encourage designs that are as unobtrusive as possible
relative to the overall Nant~cket landscape. Pe~er Dunwiddie
added t~1-:e Sl_:1:."j(=CL: i~::; knowingl~y difficult ar~d s1.1bjec~ti'\.Te .~:ld t11e
mairl .i_Gee .is t.o p::"e~,er~J-e -chose Ciuali "t_ies "L~ni.q1..le t.e' l'Jant~uc~k.et-.
(:;or;;l:,r(.;mi::~e~ arE' rleceSS2..r~~7 on l:.,:)tr; Si(J,f.;S. l)u"7:. sceriic \,iie1-13
c)f ,.1€:7.1e.rlCS 3J,.-e irrp(ll--t.a:1-:. ::~J eno-J,gn 1=-lcc>1='le on the Islarld 1:0::- t-~le
Ccr:trr:iS5iCj~'l t"c~ ~lie\~l this a;:: c.~ in:t..eres-:. "tee r-!e y.:,:!:"ctecteci"
Ala~1 Hc.ldgate asj~ea tor an evaluation of 2 of his lots on
Washi~gt-on StreE~ b:Jrdering Kant.ticket Harbor - would he b~
allc)r...J~~d "t.-.> Du.:.ld -:}-~E~re j:!lc\r;ing 1:e \A."~~'J.l::5. r.l6 ct:st.rllc:L:ir:g pur,l.:.c
...;;.t-2 t.,i, ::::~rl.j E. ':::21"1.i C -..l i e~'l3 -2 :Fe tSY :'):..:r:\,].:.. .jdie v.r':''''-ll.:1 not:. c c~::-~~e n t S 'J 2,5
net 't::l t~ias fut~~e ~ecision3 if an applica~icn on ~he lots ~Jere
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.t-:c:b'7r~ ::,:e"r.-./'i,:,:-. t_}lo~J.gn..c. atii._~"'t"teTs r~ehilld t:-lc:se
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3.l~~--:i ci':'CE:a. he =,2\:7 "tl-.;i:=', 2.S c:'rle (";t -:.l"l!:,se
af0~e!"~?I:~.i:ned ~eb:~lc'u3 def~~it~cl~2.
~;~:- U:"; 2 e-l '=':-~Rf;rIS i.~ y.es:;>c::1t::e,d "':'.hs t t',Jet~ arl(1S ~"'::er_ i c ..~" ie;,,;'s 'W';:;-..l..;. C ;~;7'
C~(~:-~~'-.i. Je::-e6, (:>1"1 \3 :::~lse t!:1 c.:~:=.e r).3S i.s ,3.r1.d .t.~a:.:. 't.~e
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prc,tle~a~is~l, ~0~~d a~w2Ys be charlged la~e~. W~~h regards ~c
t..t~e d_:~ I.:: .:..cul ty e)f le,,',,/~,u.:::::s 1::1~CI!..1gr~t agairlst to,,,:;. l)c;ar~js, rle said
hi: cffice was 2c~lng Tn i~crease the frequency ~f judicial
ses~',i;~'.riS ell Narl-:.uC}::e~ t.o facilitat.e the legal F)rc~cess.
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes cr Feb~uary 25, 1988
.t' age 6
The rl()t.iorl or aY""'. .ir:tern'iealary 1)oc3.rc l!a~\ raised. Lee DUrlrt a5jce:~
if t.f.le (~cJn1..rnissio!1 cC':l~ld set UT) an iritE:X"media1..-''2' b.'J-3.I"(J if it
W1SfJea _ IVlr. DeRensi:3 said th.is ,.."as not necessari.l y a::-:. answer t::-;
the prcblen1 and would be yet another layer sf bureaucracy. He
St.11Th~:2.::-i;:ecl the T~a~lS lav.,Tsui ts can tie settled ar:d a.~-:l~:ie(j -the
CClrr.r:;:"2,si!~!1 .~lwa:is has ttle C)1=~tic)ri c:f be,ing in c,:>~trol c:f trlE~
res1:1it. of a:1~l lavlsuit..
Ted Tillc,ts:'.)!l \~\~trlted to J:rlOW \~h~l De:1ials m1..1st~ be rec-:):rded.
I}eF~f?315i5 sa.id t.ne amenci11e::t. .::0 tl.1e t:ylaw had a pro~.li5ic;r:
adc3-re::.2"-i:lg !~ec.crdirlg proc~ed11res \~~hic11 excl"L1decl [)eniaJ..s. 'I}-ie~r-e
,.Jas 5~:)ne d.is".2ussior: atJOU1:. t;le C~Cll-'rect UE:,e c:r the :1aJnes !!(jrcle1....s
of Cor:~~i t...:.:::ns!~ an~:J. 1!:b.e:r....r!!i ts . !'
Phil Eartlet~ pointed ou~ ~hat if the Regula~ions ~4en~ th=cug~.
thG~ j.~. wsuld cons~itute a taking on two c:f h~s coastal lot5.
He ttCl1gh.t any owners or p:~tential buyers cf beach front prope~~~.
SI-iO"'..l:;j ha'tJE: a !It/':.J-::rer be\~.rare ':f atti t.uoe arld be al.} ,:'\~Je(3t..:: t;~lild .~.r:
it aD:j live on it fer as long as it exi.sts knowing from tne
sta.r: t.hat t".he:r-e m2.Y 1:)8 erc!sic;n pr::)bler:."':.:::. ir: t.ne f'J.t':..1:r"e, ;:;e -th2~:
5 (;~- ;~;O yec~"'::. GC.)wn ~chE- ::CI2..fj. He felt arl l:\'~~.f~~ 5:r~o'C.ltj l)e b_ll(.:'!~"relj
tCi e:-1j ~::~7 :-lis lar:.d a:1Y vJE1'/ he iNis:r~€~d. P8-:.e:." I)un-r.,;ir..:.iie ~wa.r;-:ecl
that :)t-::e:1 t.1-.:~: 11\::~tlr: is frecruently su.ed .:::r }:)"L:t iT~ t.r-le ;:::)si -:.i':,!: of
l)ai~~i.:-~g 01..1l:::ti:. 11r.i.'t.J.!ar~1 }:'r(:F;:=rt..y. (,\..]r:er iJl:-.C1 :build3 ten:.:> C:l<)2.e tSI :-:-~e
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to i.~3ue varia~ce5 and waive=s u~der cer~ai~ conditii)~S. the
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re~:1~~a~~0~S 5l1cwi~g ~he
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flc:::d~I~.5i~s. He ho?ed t~e reg~la~i0ns did not intend tc:
tr2~5ter prc'~.ectio:1 of i~~erests in the Act ~o u~,la~d are2S.
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Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Mi~utes of February 25, 1988 Page 7
Joa~~e Holdga~e. Na~t1~cket Town Clerk. brought up the sUbJect of
maintaining the mosquito di~ches. saying she thought this fel~
under s~ate jurisdiction. She also asJ~ed about po~d cpenings.
De~ensis thanked rv:s. Holdgate for her CCIT'~-rtent-s on tnE' first
draft last fall and said t~ey ~ad been valuable in \~Ti~ing t~e
second. cyafl:" He v?culcl nc~t CC'ITmel1-:' on pC~ld c,};len.:..rigs, but 1,~
acJ\:nol.:rledged that pro!=)c,sed ~egulatj_c:r;.s regal--ciing rr~c'sq11i to
control had been lef~ out of the new draft. in accordance wit~:
her Vi.8WS on that subject.
Pl-1il Bartlet.t clain1ed tl-ie:r'e \1.T2S rlc1tt;ing at a ~ 1 ".7I'i t.t:erl al)Cjll--:'
agl'icl.:l t'Jral activities. DeRensis said the Nantucket Bylai';
itse~f gives a grea.~ deal of emphasis to agricultural use a~6
rernalDS unchanged. Tho~gh there were sections on agricult~re in
the old draft of the regs~ they were dropped from the new ciraft.
L'}T:1n Zi!T'mel.~:na:-1 e:f the r'-Ja~~~..:cket. ~a.D.d C~cuncil I'eatj .3r:.d
com..rr:ellts C'D be.half elf tr;.f3 1300 r:1e1T:ceT's c!f t.l'"1e CCiuncill
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She 5aid
in their eyes, "t.t1e \<\Tor)~ c,;f eifectirlg and irnprc"'.rl:lg the l^Jetlc~:~js
Regulatio:1s y.,'till rleT\.ter ~)e ',:>:;DF..le~.ely fir~i2.1:.ed arl.d c,:~n1ITiended t>~e
(~orrcni35ion .):1 i L.S v!{::rJ~.
Glen ~'l!iLl5
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Surveyors also c0~.mended
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a.r~d !Ic:'J.Tl1 (:::';~~lsE:~I! s off ice c:n ~heir excf~},lE:nt j c.b iJ: '''-'Ti .ci.r:r; -:.ne
l.J.eo:"" :r-egula.--::.icns ane! felt 'tJ'Je l'C1;;Il :had C~CII7~e a .:...ong \>;.3.":l.. He
tro~gh.t out ma.ny verbal co~nents for ~heir consideration ~O:l~~~t
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Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes of February 25, 1988 Page 8
* p. iJ,
definition of ground water ana zone o~ satura~ion.
* p. 6 - definition of public water supply relative to fire
protection. There was discussion about the irrigation pond
at Bartlett's Farm. DeRensis stressed the regulatj.c:ns are
intended to be a living document which has room for gr~wth
at all times. The Co:nrTtission has the ability to make e-.pot.
judgments and this definition provides for some
flE:xibili ty. Glen asj~ed if t:he Corrmission has juris.c.iction
over so-called duck ponds and DeRensis said yes.
* p. 7 - water dependent projects or u~es: wetlands sc~n~c
'-'lews.: definition of major private i.;rays - does 'tr.is. include
all subdivision I'oads? Bob Emc:ck, also of Nant.ucket
Surveyors. asked if this encouraged 1='eopl e "cc hIock off
their ways. '::'he Corrmission agreed this could be a result.
but was not the original intent.
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p.
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- ~.:hat types of pc~llu"'t~ar!~s?
* p. 12 - #6 - coastal engineering str~ctu~es - variances~
I)ete:r DU11widdie sai.d \','''arianc:es or: \~ai'l',,leYs wc~~..:l:i be
c:orlsidered.
* 1='. 14 - # 4r - what aD-:~'U"t. l)each Y1C,11r iSfiIT;erlt ;;Yogra.:~s"? Tni3
v.!as four.ld 1~:lder ~'lirriit.ed F,lac:err~ent elf fill. -! arlG ~.:.r:1ilaI'
projects along the Massachusetts coast ~ere di3C~SSE(j_ SLeD
2_~ the cne i~ Scituate menti(.nei ~n a recent C2M
nev..Tslet.ter ..
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17 - #1 - tar~ier beaches_
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#5
Car 1 recc~!TL;"Tlended Y_ee;-=irig ~:le 33r-lc1 l..il t t::: .sa~e
c.I~et3. a:!d. stay l=iart c:f tr1e ba:t-rie:r' l:'e2c~h.
* p. 35 - #4 - does it apply to c01>;:-1'r:.o;.;;) c>.res5'? Pete::-
)unwiddie said the preference is to elir~inate underg~ound
storage of hazardous substances all toge~~e~ and fe~~ the
intent was clear.
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554
Minutes of February 25. 1988 Page 9
Bob Emack of Nantucket Surveyors likewise relayed some verbal
com~eDts (in note fornl) as follows:
* p. ~~ - #1 - last sentence - clarification? Carl Bo=c~ert
said this lea-,res room for a coastal dune to move n:n:t:rally.
r)e~~el-4si~j said the ,AloJ....,] It i.5!t 18]105 :nc.~re clari t.y thar: U5l:lg
flmay.1t
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p. 35 - #6 -
prcpert.ies '?
why not direct flood waters
Ee re~t this was anbiguous.
"t.o ()ther
Glen \rJills s:.1gges~e(j t~he {~crrrJnissio:l ]:)rc)cecu:::-ally S!1c)l.11d ~,,!'ote \3.t.
tr.i.is meeting ~o erldc)l-Se -:tie amen\jmerlt -:.eJ the B~.JlaYl as sl.lb:Tii tt:.e(j.
He a:=.J~ed if f:ltu~"'e filings ,..,it~~ t11e {~c1:r:nissir~n v.r'l'c:uld i~\'''o_~':v~e a
sepaI'at.e fo:cm !OI. st.ate and Tc~wn compl iance. Ca.l....l BCjrcl-ie:r~ said
this ma~l :-lc.I)pe:-l in the future <t but no~t at t~~is poi:1t. Lee [:;'..:nr-l
added the effective date of ~he Regulations would be the da~.e
they were voted O~ and accep~ed.
A motion was ITlade to adopt the Wetlands Protection Regula~ions
of the TOv.rD ::'If Nar.;,.tucket (:c:r:~.e~"""fJI~tic,n (,:c!:nr:1iss 3-::;:-1 as -t.:l-le~{ ~'.1'el-e
discussetj a;1Q
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r.:.his meeL,::..r~_g.
The rnc)tiC)rl 1..123
carried with a unanimous vo~e, effective d2~e February 25. 1958.
A motion was ~ade to reco~rnend the wa~rant article as submitted
to the 1988 Annual MeetiGg en January 27. 1988.
C~2.~-l"'ie~j 'i.\,i tr-.: a t:r.:.2..!1iu':IUS \7ote.
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bo~h diff~cu~t to wrj_te and f:)r ~he Pllblic tc
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Town of Nantucket
Conservation Commission
Town and County Building
Nantucket. Massachusetts 02554
Minutes or February 25, 1988 Page 10
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AT END OF YiliETING:
Administrator Ben McKelway asl::ed the Comlnission "to vote to
approve an arnended Order of Conditions / Denial for the
Nantucket Corrmons Trust SE~8-~49 which incorporated technical
and gr~matical changes to the draft Denial voted on at the
Regular Meeting of February 18, 1988. Ben read through the
changes. A motion was made to approve the ~~ended Denial.
To...m Counsel DeRensis recorr..mended that in similar caseE, in t.he
future. the CO!T'missicn wait until ::he latest possible d,::te or::
which to vote on the final versic)D of a document to avoid
changes being made without the applicant's knowledge after a
vote has Deen taken. He said the applicant should always De
notified that a vote is ab;:;ut to be taken regarding his
applicat.ion.
Ben ~cKelway urged the COlTh~issioners ::0 attend the Annual
Meeting of the Massachusetts Association of Conservation
CornrnissicrDS in l,Jorcester IvIarct1 5.
rrhere being no other business. the meeting v:as adje-u:rned at 11: 00 P!'1.