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Home My WebLink About2021-5-18 Approved Minutes May 18, 2021, adopted 5/25/21 , . , . , �' 2021 ,:t: —2 :. 3. !p/; Historic District Commission Sign Advisory Council Commissioners: Kevin Kuester, Chris Young,Paul Wolf,Mark Cutone,Ben Normand MINUTES Tuesday May 18, 2021 This meeting was held via remote participation(using ZOOM recording feature) Pursuant to Governor Baker's March 12, 2020 Order Regarding the Open Meeting Law. I. Procedural Business Call to order: This meeting was conducted via Zoom and called to order by Chris Young, Chairman, at 9:02 am. This meeting was recorded on Zoom video. Attending members: Chris Young (Chair), Paul Wolf, Mark Cutone and Kevin Kuester Staff in attendance: Cathy Flynn. HDC Compliance Coordinator Absent members: None Late arrivals: None Early Departures: None Motion to Adopt Agenda made by Ben Normand; Seconded by Mark Cutone. Roll Call Vote: carried unanimously 5-0//Normand, Kuester,Wolf, Cutone and Young- aye Approval of Minutes- 5/11/21 Motion to Approve made by Paul Wolf; Seconded by Mark Cutone Roll Call Vote: carried unanimously 5-0//Normand, Kuester,Wolf, Cutone and Young- aye II. Public Comment-None Page 1 of 3 Approved Minutes May 18, 2021, adopted 5/25/21 SAC Comments- existing signs relatively simple. Explained MSP purposed. Suggested photos with locus map • Sign Guidelines update discussion-N/A • Discussion and possible vote of Construction sign letter to Nantucket Builders Association-N/A • Next Sign Advisory Council meeting: Tuesday May 25,2021 at 9:00am V. Adjournment Motion to Adjourn at 10:30am made by Young; seconded by Normand. Carried 5-0//Kuester,Wolf,Normand, Cutone and Young-ave Submitted by Cathy Flynn it II Page 3 of 3 Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: Chris McDermott// no representation Address of Proposed Sign: 34 CENTER ST Name on sign: GRAFICAS GALLERY Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other: PROJECTING Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): Entrance General Comments/Recommendations: REPRESENTING- NONE Young- size appropriate Normand- mentioned edge banding- appropriate Wolf- no concerns Cutone- no concerns Kuester- no concerns Motion to Approve through Staff with black edge banding made by Kuester; seconded by Wolf 5-0//Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: S Water Assoc/ Anna Magliozzi Address of Proposed Sign: 5D W WATER ST Name on sign: WHEAT Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other}: PROJECTING Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): Entrance General Comments/Recommendations: REPRESENTING- Anna Magliozzi and Hugh Collins; Business owners Young- 5 sf max size for 2 story building Kuester- asked about defined border/frame and linen white Cutone- agrees with Kuester PW- agrees BN- agree use sand tone color as border Motion to Approve through Staff with painted border made by Kuester; seconded by Wolf 5-0//Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young-aye ISI Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: Samuel Furrow//Jamie Feeley Address of Proposed Sign: 87 BAXTER RD Name on sign: N/A Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other: FREE STANDING PUBLIC INFO SIGN Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): OTHER General Comments/Recommendations: REPRESENTING- Jamie Feeley, Cottage and Castle- proposed viewing area for geotubes. Offered to make sign viewable from one side. Cutone- asked if will replace the other fence signs info placards. Normand- doesn't feel 6' should be 3-4' at an angle. Not thrilled with public info sign for this project. Kuester- prefers original approval. Does not want to set precedent. Wolf- agrees Kuester. Asked if example was approvable. Too big, likes original. CY- existing signage is what the SAC encourages. (ie Sankaty Light House). Public info versus project specific. Motion to Hold for Revisions made by Cutone; seconded by Wolf. 5-0//Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 4 CHESTNUT STREET Name on sign: THE GATE HOUSE Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): WALL Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): ENTRANCE General Comments/Recommendations: ***HELD FOR REVISIONS from 4/27/21** REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. Made requested revisions- squared off corners with routed edges for all signs. Younng- reviewing current design dated 5/14/21 Cutone- appreciates changes Kuester-agrees with Cutone Wolf- no comment Normand- no concerns Motion to Approve made by Cutone; seconded by Wolf 5-01/Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye it Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 11 INDIA ST- Name on sign: THE ROBERTS HOUSE Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): WALL Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): ENTRANCE- ABOVE STAIRS CORNER OF INDIA AND CENTER General Comments/Recommendations: ***HELD FOR REVISIONS from 4/27/21** REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. Made requested revisions- squared off corners with routed edges for all signs. Cutone- same revision- no concerns Kuester- no concerns Wolf- no concerns Normand- no concerns Young- no concerns Motion to Approve made by Normand; seconded by Wolf 5-0//Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 11 INDIA ST Name on sign: THE ROBERTS HOUSE Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): WALL Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): ENTRANCE- ON CENTER ST SIDE General Comments/Recommendations: REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. Made requested revisions- squared off corners with routed edges for all signs. Young- asked to be smaller to fit doorway (lost connection for a bit)- Cutone- change measures to 6" x 42". should submit a new graphic. Make sure it is centered over door Normand- would like to see proper documentation provided. Wolf- asked about existing Roberts Collection sign will be removed Kuester- agrees with Cutone Motion to Hold for Revisions to include proper graphics AND corrected application made by Cutone; seconded by Kuester 5-0// Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 31 CENTER STREET Name on sign: THE MANOR HOUSE Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): WALL Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): ENTRANCE- General Comments/Recommendations: ****HELD FOR REVISIONS FROM 4/27/21 REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. Made requested revisions- squared off corners with routed edges for all signs. Measurements in porch to proportion scaled Normand- no concerns Wolf- approvable Cutone-no concerns Kuester-no concerns Young- no concerns Motion to Approve made by Wolf; seconded by Normand. 5-01/ Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 29 CENTER STREET Name on sign: THE MEETING HOUSE Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): WALL Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): SIDE ENTRANCE General Comments/Recommendations: *'"HELD FOR REVISIONS FROM 4/27/21 REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. Made requested revisions- squared off corners with routed edges for all signs. Onside door-made changes as requested 60" width. concerned with visibility because it is set back a bit. Cutone- fine Kuester- no concerns Wolf- no concerns Normand- sign should narrow to width of door. Recommends width to match and centered over door. Young- asked if doors facing each other (the meeting house and Roberts house signs). Motion to Approve at 42" width of doorlus side casings made by with width does not exceedp Normand; seconded by Wolf. 5-0// Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 29 CENTER STREET Name on sign: FARAWAY Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): WALL SIGN- CHANGED TO LETTER SIGN Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): ENTRANCE General Comments/Recommendations: ****HELD FOR REVISIONS FROM 4/27/21 REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. changed from wall to projecting sign. provided two options (FARAWAY letters on building#1 or on fascia #2) Cutone- questionned what they were reviewing-letters or carved projecting sign. Like the letters over the entrance. Should be consistent with other wall signs reviewed.Too contemporary. Kuester- (acting chair)-agrees with what's been said.Thinks 2nd story projecting sign - inappropriate. PW- should match other signs. CY- agrees with Cutone. Normand- does not like applied letters- should re think placement- under gutter- might not have enough room. Caggiano- gave examples of other "letter" signs. Normand suggested to include those examples in nest submission. Overall concerns are contempory font, materials (aluminum), placement, combo of signs might not work. Motion to Hold for Revisions and to track with projecting sign made by Kuester; seconded by Normand. 5-0// Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 29 CENTER STREET Name on sign: FARAWAY Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): FLAG SIGN CHANGED TO PROJECTING SIGN Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): ENTRANCE General Comments/Recommendations: ****HELD FOR REVISIONS FROM 4/27/21 REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. changed from wall to projecting sign. provided two options (FARAWAY letters on building#1 or on fascia #2) Kuester- concerned with location and being lit Cutone- prefers proposed projecting as a wall sign- maybe fixed between 2nd floor windows. Change proportion and relocate to where "faraway" is marked on pic Wolf-does not think 2nd or 3rd floor appropriate. Suggests projecting sign at street level. Normand- agrees with Wolf Young- appropriate projecting sign at street level off of post along with wall sign on building seen on pic. Sign would need a border/frame to work Motion to Hold for Revisions made by Cutone; seconded by Wolf. 5-0// Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 29 CENTER STREET Name on sign: SISTER SHIP Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): FENCE SIGN Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): General Comments/Recommendations: ****HELD FOR REVISIONS FROM 4/27/21 REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. This is a sign for the restaurant. Attaching to fence behind hedge-will look like its floating. moved inside the property. Staff- suggested using the approved hardscape plan for this proposal. Kuester-confusing. Can't determine where sign is mounted. Where is the entrance. What are they trying to identify? Cutone- would like to see proposed fence- 6' high privet-has 6'fence been approved? Wolf-commented on "pink" color Motion to Hold for Revisions and more information and color samples made by Cutone; seconded by Normand. 5-0// Wolf, Keuster, Normand, Cutone and Young- aye II Sign Advisory Council Meeting Date: 5/18/21 Council Members: Young, Kuester, Wolf, Normand and Cutone Property Owner/Applicant Representing: 29 Center St, LLC// Plymouth Sign Company Address of Proposed Sign: 29 CENTER STREET Name on sign: COFFEE Type of sign (wall, projecting, free standing, other): OTHER- LETTER SIGN Location of sign (entrance, rear, side, other): OTHER General Comments/Recommendations: ***HELD FOR REVISIONS FROM 4/27/21 REPRESENTING-Mike Caggiano, Plymouth Sign Company. Would like to withdraw application No Action Taken