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Home My WebLink About2021-4-20 Approved Minutes April 20, 2021, adopted April 27, 2021 NTUC '� _ Historic District Commission C ) Sign Advisory Council Commissioners: Kevin Kuester, Chris Young,Paul Wolf,Mark Cutone, Ben Normand MINUTES Tuesday April 20, 2021 This meeting was held via remote participation (using ZOOM recording feature) Pursuant to Governor Baker's March 12, 2020 Order Regarding the Open Meeting Law. I. Procedural Business Call to order: This meeting was conducted via Zoom and called to order by Chris Young, Chairman, at 9:05 am. This meeting was recorded on Zoom video. Attending members: Chris Young (Chair),Paul Wolf, Mark Cutone and Kevin Kuester Staff in attendance: Cathy Flynn,Land Use Specialist Absent members: Ben Normand Late arrivals: Paul Wolf at 9:20am Early Departures: None Motion to Adopt Agenda made by Mark Cutone; Seconded by Kevin Kuester. Roll Call Vote: carried unanimously 3-0//Cutone, Kuester and Young- aye Approval of Minutes- 4/13/21 Motion to Approve made by Mark Cutone; Seconded by Kevin Kuester Roll Call Vote: carried unanimously 3-0//Cutone, Kuester and Young- aye II. Public Comment- None Page 1 of 2 Approved Minutes April 20, 2021, adopted April 27, 2021 III. New Business 1. NIR Retail (OB) 14 Federal Street Master Sign Plan 42.3.1-126 Mike Duffy 2. NIR Retail 14 Federal Street Hanging sign 42.3.1-126 Mike Duffy 3. NIR Retail (OB) 18A Federal Street Projecting sign 42.3.1/72 Giovanna DiRusso 4. Budacon, LLC 2 Sanford Rd Unit 2 Indiv letter sign 55/807 Jurgita Budaite 5. NIIA 12 Straight Wharf Projecting sign 42.3.1/138 Cara Marquis 1 6. NIIA 15 Broad Street Projecting sign 42.4.2/61 Cara Marquis 7. NHA 15 Broad Street Projecting sign 42.4.2/61 Cara Marquis 8. NIIA 15 Broad Street Projecting sign 42.4.2/61 Cara Marquis 9. Blue Flag Development 37 Centre Street Wall sign 42.4.2/36 Cara Marquis 10. Blue Flag Development 37 Centre Street Projecting sign 42.4.2/36 Cara Marquis IV. Other Business/ Preliminary Review (if applicable) • Letter to Alliance to Protect Nantucket Economy- HDC Chair approved • Mission statement discussion and vote-motion to adopt by unanimous consent. Approved by HDC Chair • Discussion and possible vote of Construction sign letter to Nantucket Builders Association-N'A • Next Sign Advisory Council meeting: Tuesday April 27,2021 at 9:00am V. Adjournment Motion to Adjourn at 9:58 am made by Cutone; seconded by Wolf. Carried 4-0//Kuester,Wolf, Cutone and Young-aye Submitted by Cathy Flynn Page 2 of 2 Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone and Kevin Kuester Applicant: NIR, Retail Representing: Mike Duffy,Project Manager-Development Address of proposed sign: 14 Federal Street Sign Name: Master Sign Plan Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount ( )Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock (X )Other Location(on property) of proposed sign: ( )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( )Side elevation (X )Other Comments/Recommendations: Duffy-addressed previous concerns Young-requested to inform tenants regarding lighting Cutone- no concerns Kuester- no concerns. Appreciates removal of strip lighting Motion to Approve made by Kuester; seconded by Cutone. 3-0 Cutone, Kuester and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone and Kevin Kuester Applicant: NIR, Retail Representing: Mike Duffy,Project Manager-Development Address of proposed sign: 14 Federal Street Sign Name: Anna P Jay Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount ( )Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock (X )Other Location(on property)of proposed sign: ( )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( X )Other Comments/Recommendations: Duffy- addressed previous concerns matching sign size and hardware. Young- intention should be that two signs joined together to appear as one sign, as opposed to a ladder sign. Cutone- no concerns Kuester- no concerns. Motion to Approve with the two signs to read as one per the guidelines made by Kuester; seconded by Cutone. 3-0 Cutone, Kuester and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone,Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: NIR, Retail Representing: Giovanna DiRusso Address of proposed sign: 18A Federal Street Sign Name: POLLACKS Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount (X)Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock ()Other Location(on property) of proposed sign: ( X )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: DiRusso-relocating sign from SS Water St. using existing bracket 32in. Sign is 38 in in lenght Kuester-concerned that the length of the sign would be too large for existing bracket at the new location 18A Federal St. Context of other signage at location important. Might need a Master Sign Plan. Suggested to hang it temporarily and take a picture of it to get a sense of scale. Young- bracketing is the concern-the previous location picture does not show the length of the sign and how it relates to the bracket. Could see this approvable with an extended bracket-would need to modify the application. Cutone-google maps shows bracket at previous location more appropriate. Proposed bracket is shorter. Bracket is undersized. Wolf- no comment Motion to Hold for Revisions to amend the bracket description and submit picture of sign as suggested made by Kuester; seconded by Wolf. 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young 4-0 aye. Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone, Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: BUDACON, LLC Representing: Jurgita Budaite Address of proposed sign: 2 SANFORD RD UNIT 2 Sign Name: ISLAND GLOW Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount ()Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock (X)Other Location(on property) of proposed sign: ( X )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: Budaite- reviewed the YouTube video-trim of building only option, would like lights due to hours of operation. Wanted to use small lighting. Cutone-took a view if building. Suggested to use black not gold due to visa issue Kuester-agrees with black color and placement Wolf-agrees with what has been said Young-agrees Motion to Approve with the color changed to black made by Wolf; seconded by Cutone 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone, Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: NANTUCKET HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION Representing: CARA MARQUIS Address of proposed sign: 12 STRAIGHT WHARF Sign Name: THOMAS MACY WHAREHOUSE Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount (X)Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock ()Other Location (on property) of proposed sign: ( X )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: Marquis-will make a Master Sign Plan if needed. Young- questioned additional tenants. Remembers 2 projecting sign before with previous tenants. Projecting signs in those locations might not be possible with this middle projecting sign on a Master Sign Plan. Three projecting signs across this facade would not be typical. Kuester-questioned if whale is 3D. Will edge be a painted band and/or beveled edge Wolf-concern is future tenants- Master Sign Plan possible. Noticed other brackets. Suggested removing other brackets. Cutone-great example of bracket relationship to sign size Motion to Approve with removal of extraneous brackets and this is the only approved sign for the building made by Kuester; seconded by Wolf. 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone, Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: NANTUCKET HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION Representing: CARA MARQUIS Address of proposed sign: 15 BROAD ST Sign Name: THE MUSEUM SHOP Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount (X )Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock ()Other Location(on property) of proposed sign: ( N )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: MARQUIS- owners prefer projecting sign at this location versus Discover Center Projecting Sign Signs are slightly over the size for the building MC- buildings are unique-suggested signs being reflective of building. Identical signs within a few feet of each other. Suggests modifying signs a bit. Suggests one of the signs be a wall sign. Would address variation and scale. A rectangular sign would be an option for either location. Kuester-agrees with Cutone. Sign is approvable. Anticipating additional signage with NHA prop and hours of operation. Could use different shape for Discovery Center. Wolf-agrees with what's been said. Young- Discovery Center should be 4 square feet on a 1 story bldg. Reduced in size to match scale of building. Motion to Approve the projecting sign at the Museum Shop made by Wolf; seconded by Cutone. 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young-aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone, Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: NANTUCKET HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION Representing: CARA MARQUIS Address of proposed sign: 15 BROAD ST Sign Name: THE DISCOVERY CENTER- TWO SIGNS **reviewed together Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount (X)Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock ()Other Location(on property) of proposed sign: ( X )Entrance to building (X )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: MARQUIS- owners prefer projecting sign at this location versus Discover Center Projecting Sign Signs are slightly over the size for the building MC- buildings are unique-suggested signs being reflective of building. Identical signs within a few feet of each other. Suggests modifying signs a bit. Suggests one of the signs be a wall sign. Would address variation and scale. A rectangular sign would be an option for either location. Kuester- agrees with Cutone. Sign is approvable. Anticipating additional signage with NHA prop and hours of operation. Could use different shape for Discovery Center. Wolf-agrees with what's been said. Young- Discovery Center should be 4 square feet on a 1 story bldg. Reduced in size to match scale of building. Motion to Hold both applications for Revisison made by Wolf; seconded by Cutone. 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young-aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone, Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: NANTUCKET HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION Representing: CARA MARQUIS Address of proposed sign: 15 BROAD ST Sign Name: THE DISCOVERY CENTER- TWO SIGNS **reviewed together Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount (X )Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock ()Other Location (on property) of proposed sign: ( X )Entrance to building (X )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: MARQUIS-owners prefer projecting sign at this location versus Discover Center Projecting Sign Signs are slightly over the size for the building MC- buildings are unique- suggested signs being reflective of building. Identical signs within a few feet of each other. Suggests modifying signs a bit. Suggests one of the signs be a wall sign. Would address variation and scale. A rectangular sign would be an option for either location. Kuester-agrees with Cutone. Sign is approvable. Anticipating additional signage with NHA prop and hours of operation. Could use different shape for Discovery Center. Wolf-agrees with what's been said. Young- Discovery Center should be 4 square feet on a 1 story bldg. Reduced in size to match scale of building. Motion to Hold both applications for Revisison made by Wolf; seconded by Cutone. 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young-aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone, Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: BLUE FLAG DEVELOPMENT Representing: CARA MARQUIS Address of proposed sign: 37 CENTER ST Sign Name: FOR NOW Type of proposed sign ( X )Wall Mount ( )Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock ()Other Location (on property) of proposed sign: ( X )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( )Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: Cutone-questioned border edge either framed or beveled. Font is unusual. Wolf-no concerns Kuester- prefers frame, gives dimension. Young- if has beveled edge, painted white. 3D which captures edge of sign MTA with a frame MC/PW Motion to Approve wall sign with a frame made by Cutone; seconded by Wolf. 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young- aye Sign Advisory Council Comment Sheet Date: 4/20/21 Members present: Chris Young, Mark Cutone,Paul Wolf and Kevin Kuester Applicant: BLUE FLAG DEVELOPMENT Representing: CARA MARQUIS Address of proposed sign: 37 CENTER ST Sign Name: FOR NOW Type of proposed sign ( )Wall Mount (X)Projecting ( )Free standing( )Rock ()Other Location (on property) of proposed sign: ( )Entrance to building ( )Rear of building ( X)Side elevation ( )Other Comments/Recommendations: **SAME AS WALL SIGN Cutone-questioned border edge either framed or beveled. Font is unusual. Wolf-no concerns Kuester- prefers frame, gives dimension. Young- if has beveled edge, painted white.This size is approvable. 3D which captures edge of sign MTA with a frame MC/PW Motion to Approve projecting sign with a frame made by Cutone; seconded by Wolf. 4-0//Cutone, Wolf, Kuester and Young- aye