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Home My WebLink About2019-10-22HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 lr _ HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING 2 Fairgrounds Road Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554 2819 N001' -? AM 8' L www.nantucket-ma.gov Commissioners: Raymond Pohl (Chair), Diane Coombs (Vice -chair), John McLaughlin, Abigail Camp, Vallorie Oliver, Associate Commissioners: Stephen Welch Terence Watterson Jessie Dutra -- MINUTES -- Tuesday, October 22, 2019 Public Safety Facility, 4 Fairgrounds Road, Training Room - 4:30 p.m. Called to order at 4:33 p.m. and announcements by Mr. Pohl Staff in attendance: Cathy Flynn, Administrative Specialist; Terry Norton, Town Minutes Taker Attending Members: Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Absent Members: Coombs, Dutra, Watterson Late Arrivals: None Early Departures: None Agenda ado ted b j unanimous consent. COMMENT1. PUBLIC None CONSENT11. Iooerty owner name Street Address Scope of work Map -Parcel Agent -73267 3 Federal Street 3 tab to Architectural 42.3.1-174 T & T R Ifing 2. Frances Siegler Brody Trust - 73268 34 Polpis Road 38 sf addition 54-253 Normand Residential 3. Brien, Deborah - 73269 9 Lyons Lane Portico/door/window 76-25&26 Self 4. Fmen,, Chris - 73270 7 West Way Studio to shingle 38-135 Chris Emery 5. Hilts, Beverly - 73271 18 New Lane Shed 41-397 Rachel Day 6. Dutra, Jesse - 73272 76 Hummock Pond RoadRev. 73167: add window 50-123 Emenru� 7. Frates, Jim - 73273 2 Ash Street Rev 73070; windows 42.4.2-96 Emeritus 8. 18 Orange, LLC - 73274 18 Orange Street New auxiliary structure 42.3.2-15 Emeritus 9. Brundle, Melanie := 73275 21 Kendrick Street Clr chg/roof/walkout 76.IU_ . Sanne - 10. 17 1 Iinkley Lane N.T. - 7327617 Ilinckle} Lane Rev. 73312: retaining wall 30-105 Val Oliver 11. Old South Road LP - 73277 31 Old South Road (lot 16) Fence 68-3 Val Oliver 12. Old South Road LP - 73278 31 Old South Road (lot 17) Fence 68-3 Val Oliver 13. Kalman, Rick - 73279 28 Mizzenmast/43 Appleton Remove deck 66-66 Val Oliver 14. Ference-Gray, Deborah - 73280 Zero New Street Picket fence 7 15. AC'right, Bill - 73281 5 Goose Cove Way Rev. 72196 59.4-367 Val Oliver 16. Courey, Jeff - 73282 4 Derrymore Road 3 tab to arc4jtjQva1 4 17. Barnes, Sam - 73283 68 Madaket Road 3 tab to architectural 41-200.2 im L don 18. N.I.R. - 73284 Straight Wharf 3 tab to architectural 42.2.415= 19. Frank, Jennifer - 73285 22 Capaum Pond Road Alterations/porch addition 40-12 20. Hanabea Six, LLC - 73286 6 Hanabea Lane Re-site structure 69-255 JB Studio 21. Fogarty, Brian - 73287 1 Wall Street Rev. 72919: relocate 82-83 Emeritus 22. Hollister, Thomas - 73288 21 Autopscot Circle Rev. 72901: dormers 55-516.9 Steve Hollister 23. Noll, Robert - 73289 21 Waydale Road Window changes 55-430 Linda Williams 24. Sanford, Henry- 73290 5 Catherine Lane Shingle to clapboard 66-7 Concept Design 26. Hale, Joe - 73292 3 Parson Lane Change stair location 75-144 Hristo Rashkov 27. Blackwell, Jeff - 73293 10 Keel Lane 196 sf addition 66-384 Robert Newman 28. 1*htman, Levine - 73294 5 Pleasant Street Window revisions 42.3.3-156 Botti 1(). 5 SPR, LLC - 73295 5 Quaise Pasture Addition 26-21 Botticelli & Pohl 30. Barnes, Jaime - 73296 10 East Dover Street Replace windows/color ch€ 55.4.1-29 JB Studio-_ 31. Petty, Dione - 73297 10 Center Street Chimney 73.1.3-102 Michael Sweeney 32. Churchill, Elizabeth - 73298 3 Emily Street Shed 49.2.3-53 Bentley Churchill 33. Galietto, Paul - 73299 37 Ridge Lane Belgian block apron 38-68 Greyson Keller 34. Lazaroff, Faye - 73300 20 Midland Avenue 2nd story deck/door 59.3-164 Caleb Kardell Voting Camp (acting chair), McLaughlin, Welch Alternates None Page 1 of 11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 Recused Pohl, Oliver Documentation None Representing None Public None Concerns No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve. (Welch) Vote Carried 2-0//McLaughlin abstain Certificate # 73267 to 73300 III. CONSENT WITH CONDITIONS I'i-operty owner name Street Address Scope of work 1. 17 Hinkley Lane N.T. — 73301 17 Hinckley Lane Pool-hardscape • Screening must be maintained at time of inspection and in perpetuity 2. Hollister, Thomas — 73302 21 Autopscot Circle Rotate shed 55-516.9 Steve Hollister Cardinal points to be written on plans 3. Farrell, Frank — 73303 4 Westmoor Road Pool -patio 41-12 Tidal Henry • Screening to be maintained at time of inspection and in perpetuity 4. Curlee, Joanne — 73304 121 Wauwinet Road Window replacement 12-10 Robert Newman • Plans bubbled to reflect changes 5. Daly, Michael — 73305 36 South Shore Road Deck 80-118 Robert Newman • Plans bubbled to reflect changes 6. Scott, Susan — 73306 2 Topping Lift Two mini -split units 66-310 SS Climate Control • Due to lack of visibility Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Welch Alternates None Recused Oliver Documentation None Representing None Public None Concerns No additional concerns. Motion Motion to Approve through staff per noted concerns. (Camp) Vote Carried 3-0//McLaughlin abstain Certificate # 73301 to 73306 IV. SIGNS Property owner name Street Address Scope of work Map-Parce Agent I Araujo, Laurent 3 West Creek Road Wall sign 68-467 Self \'oting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Sign design plans, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing None Sign Advisory None Concerns Staff — SAC approved this as is. Motion Motion to Approve per SAC recommendation. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73307 Page 2 of 11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 1kMK9J poll Property owner name Street Address Scope of work Map -Parcel Agent 1. Meadows Two ACK, LLC 10 & 12 Orchid Place Module A -energy code wind 68-338 KOH Architecture 2. Meadows Two ACK, LLC 14 & 16 Orchid Place ModuleA.l-energy code wind 68-338 KOH Architecture 3. Meadows Two ACK, LLC 6 & 8 Clover Place Module B -energy code wind 68-336 KOH Architecture 4. Meadows Two ACK, LLC 1 & 3 Clover Place ModuleB2-energy code wind 68-339 KOH Architecture 5. Meadows Two ACK, LLC 5 Clover Place ModuleHl-energycode wind 68-338 KOH Architecture Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Arthur Reade, Reade, Gullicksen, Hanley, & Gifford LLP — The architect will be here Thursday; asked this be held for her. Public Welch Concerns (4:36) Oliver — Without the spacer bar, the windows will look weird; at night the light is oddly dispersed. She feels there was mis- information being thrown around at the last meeting on the view factor. As there are other things that can be done off -set this, we have to be careful where we go with this. McLaughlin — No comments at this time. Camp — She wants the windows to remain as approved. Pohl —The issue is no spacer bar; getting rid of the spacer bar changes the view value but the value is de minimi.. You can off -set the energy requirements by doing something else to the building. We could rule it's far enough off the road so as not to change the appearance. Motion Motion to Hold for the Thursday October 24ei meeting. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 6. Sullivan, Peter 6 New Lane Hardscape: pool & driveway 41-294 atlantic Landscaping Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver (Pohl read back in) Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Lindsay Congleton, Atlantic Landscaping Inc. — Reviewed changes made per previous concerns; pool is autocover. Public None Concerns (4:43) Camp — She just viewed this; around there is mostly small houses with white picket fences. Asked if a picket fence could go outside the vegetative screen from the corner to the house. Wants a board fence around the pooL Oliver — Her main concern is the arbor vitae and the amount of development of the lot. Likes Ms. Camp's suggestion. With the no -visibility caveat, this should be okay. McLaughlin — No comments. Pohl — You can see over a 4 -foot fence so it's solely a decorative element.; the plantings are the screen. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with a 36" -high, white, picket fence, per Exhibit A with the pool not to be visible from a public way at time of inspection and thereafter. (Camp) Vote Carried 3-1//Oliver opposed Certificate # 73308 7. Taha, Kareem 3 Friendship Lane New dwelling 66-248 Holcomb Dsgn Std Voting Camp (acting chair), McLaughlin, Oliver Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Linda Williams — Concerns expressed were about the location. Public None Concerns (4:5) (4:42) Motion to Hold for representation. (Oliver) Carried unanimously Oliver — Where Friendship Lane splits to Equator Drive, there is a house this tall, so she doesn't have serious concerns. McLaughlin —it's adequate Camp — She didn't see a house this tall in that neighborhood; if it comes down in height, it will fit in. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73309 Page 3 of 11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 Property oNN ncr name Street Address Scope of work Map -Parcel Agad 1. 28 Lily Street, LLC 28 Lily Street Hardscape: patio \ oting Pohl, McLaughlin, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused Camp Documentation Landscape design, site plan, and photos. Representing David Bartsch — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:05) Welch — On the plan, we need the materials labeled, bubble what's proposed, and show what's approved; he wants to view. Agrees, external lighting locations must be indicated on the plans. McLaughlin —The plans are confusing. Oliver — She isn't concerned, she just wants the additional information. The lighting should be on the plan as well. Motion Motion to View with additional information added to the plans. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 2. 10 Uncatena St., LLC 10 Uncatena Street Hardscape: gate/play court 80-16.1 Jardins International Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design, site plan, and photos. Representing Elizabeth O'Rourke, Jardins International — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:16) Welch — The evergreen screen should be indigenous. He has no other concerns. Oliver — This is a controversial structure and the applicant keeps incrementally changing the plans; she wants HSAB to Oliver — The gate should be pushed back off the road about 10 feet review this. This is becoming more of a solid structure. McLaughlin — No comments. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with the vehicular gate moved back to the setback line and the sport court screen review this. to be indigenous evergreen. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73310 3. 10 Uncatena St., LLC 10 Uncatena Street Covered porch 80-16.1 Emeritus Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Anton Dimov, Emeritus Development — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:20) No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73311 Page 4of11 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing Alex Bagmet, Emeritus Development — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:23) Oliver — This is a controversial structure and the applicant keeps incrementally changing the plans; she wants HSAB to review this. This is becoming more of a solid structure. Welch — The brackets are an improvement over the existing. He's okay with the louvers. Supports the need for HSAB to review this. Camp — She likes that you can see through it so doesn't like the louvers. Agrees the proposed brackets are more appropriate. McLaughlin — The brackets should be straight and 45 -degree angle. Wants to know if the brackets were approved. Pohl — Agrees the brackets are better. The gazebo is a pre -HDC structure and the current brackets are existing. Motion Motion to View and to have HSAB review the plans and verify the age of the existing gazebo. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # Page 4of11 HDC TkIinutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 5. Lco, Nick , . „ . _,_ 0 Winn Street Haxdscape: my pit,elim spa,pool 41-184.1 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch _.._._..— Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing Katharine Mitchell, KM Design — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:31) Oliver — She doesn't think it's visible. No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73312 6. Brescher, John Voting Alternates Recused Documentation Representing Public Concerns (5:34) Motion Vote 3 Pond Road Hardscape: pool 56-151.1 Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch None None Landscape design, site plan, and photos. Katharine Mitchell, KM Design — Presented project. None No concerns. Motion to Approve as submitted. (Camp) Carried unanimously Certificate # 73313 KM Designs KM Designs 7. Gilbreth,,Rebecca 92 Hulbert Avenue Rev. 72543: foundation 30-51 Ethan,McMorrow \'oting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Welch Alternates None Recused Oliver Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Val Oliver, Val Oliver Design, Inc. — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:37) No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73314 8. 3 OMC, LLC 3 Old Mill Court Rev. 71885: door, railing, fenst. 55-927 Ethan McMorrow Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Welch Alternates None Recused Oliver Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Val Oliver, Val Oliver Design, Inc. — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:41) McLaughlin — The west elevation deck is creating a flat -roof element visible from the south; that's not appropriate. Welch — Agrees with Mr. McLaughlin about the 2nd -floor deck. We need an updated locus. Pohl — It looks like a flush, parapet railing is being added to the 2nd -floor deck on the west elevation. Motion Motion to Hold for addition information. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 9. 1 Caroline Way, LLC 1 Caroline Way Deck revisions 82-58&59 Paulo Vincente Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Paulo Vincente — Presented project. Public None Concerns (5:47) Camp — She prefers the shingled railing. The proposed deck is too long it's over 50 feet. Oliver — She thinks it's appropriate for the area; everyone has a large deck facing the water. Welch — Suggested mixing more shingled railing with the baluster would help tone down the volume of the south elevation deck. McLaughlin — The deck is 5 -feet over the guidelines; it's minor. Pohl — Likes Mr. Welch's suggestion. Motion Motion to Approve through staff per Exhibit Al & A2. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73315 Page 5 of 11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused Camp Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Chris Dallmus, Design Associates — Presented project; asked that eliminating the 3 -lights in the foundation be added to Representing the application at this time. Public None Concerns (5:5) Oliver — Given the context, Mr. Barsch's proposed metal rail on the west elevation would not be appropriate. No concerns. Motion Welch — The trash bin doesn't show on the north or south elevations. The windows on the primary structure should be Vote true -divided light (IDL) to match existing; the application says simulated -divided light (SDL). Applicant confirmed the Voting windows are to be TDL to match existing with application revised at the table. Alternates McLaughlin — No concerns. Recused Pohl — Suggested coordinating with Mr. Bartsch about the rail on the west elevation. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with revising the north and south elevation showing the trash enclosure. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73316 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Jon Schoudel, owner — Presented project: circa 1950 single -glazed windows. Public None Concerns (6:05) Camp — She wants to view; this is a historic house. Oliver — We allowed the replacement of the other windows and these are not historic. Welch — These aren't original to the historic home; he's okay with this. The application should reflect the muntin Motion configuration will match existing. McLaughlin — No concerns. Pohl — The existing windows are probably Brosco as well. Motion Motion to View and to be heard Thursday, October 24ei. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 12. Martin, Will 16 Pine Tree Road Roof top solar 68-991 Tobias Glidden Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and manufacturer spec sheet. Representing Tobias Glidden, ACK Smart — Presented project. Public None Concerns (6:16) No concerns; it meets the solar guidelines. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73317 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Brook Meerbergen — Presented project; building is circa 1930s/1940s; the south elevation is blocked by a house. Public None Concerns (6:22) Welch — He'd like to have HSAB weigh in on this. Windows on the visible east and south sides should be TDI. Oliver — She'd be okay with SDL windows on sides other than the front facade. Not in favor of the SDL with screens. Camp — Agrees with Ms. Oliver about SDL on the sides and back. McLaughlin — They should all be TDL. Pohl — We have allowed SDL on windows away from the public view in the old historic district (OHD). He'd like TDL on the east elevation. Motion to Reopen. (Camp) Carried unanimously Discussion about SDL windows all around covered with full-sized, wood screens. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with the wood insulated glass windows on the north, south, and west elevation but the east elevation to have TDL with storms. (Camp) Previous motion stands by unanimous consent. Vote Carried 3-2//Welch and McLaughlin opposed Certificate # 73318 Page 6of11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 14. Bluefin, LLC 19 Ellen's Way New dwelling 81-184 Brook Meerbergen Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Brook Meerbergen — Presented project. Public None Concerns (6:38) Light fixture struck off the plans. Motion Motion to Approve without the light fixture. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73319 15. Bluefm, LLC 19 Ellen's Way Garage/studio 81-184 Brook Meerbergen Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Brook Meerbergen — Presented project. Public None Concerns (6:40) No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (McLaughlin) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73320 16. Bluefm, LLC 19 Ellen's Way Pool 81-184 Brook Meerbergen Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Brook Meerbergen — Presented project. Public None Concerns (6:42) Pohl — The pool would be visible down the driveway. Motion Motion to Approve with the pool not to be visible at time of inspection or thereafter. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73321 17. Cuniff, William 38 Appleton Road Dormers/deck/stairs 66-42 Nantucket Design Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Kent Murphy, Nantucket Design — Presented project. Public None Concerns (6:44) Camp — The front elevation, left dormer windows have horizontal panes. Discussion about dropping the sill of the front elevation left dormer so the windows can get taller. Oliver — The stairs are okay if they are screened with plantings. The dormer windows should be 3 -over -3 double hung. Agrees with Mr. Pohl. Welch — Wants to see this again this Thursday with the corrected drawings. Suggested trying to duplicate the west elevation windows in the dormers. McLaughlin — Agrees with Ms. Oliver about the windows going to 3 -over -3 double hung. Pohl — The drawings do not match the actual conditions. Motion Motion to Hold for revisions and to be heard Thursday, October 241'. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # Break 7:00 to 7:04 pm. Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Robert Newman, Sandcastle Construction Inc. — Presented project. Public None Concerns (7:04) Oliver — Dormers are okay; not so sure about the roof walk. Camp — Agrees with Ms. Oliver. Motion Motion to Approve the dormer through staff with the fenestration to match existing; the roof walk not approved at this time. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73322 Page 7 of 11 Page 8 of 11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 19. Winters, Ronald 7 Thirty Acres Lane Roof top solar 67-115.8 ACK Smart Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and manufacturer spec sheet Representing Tobias Glidden, ACK Smart — Presented project. Public None Concerns (7:14) Oliver — Despite the light-colored roof, she is okay with this. Motion to Approve as submitted. (Oliver) Welch — The visibility is extremely limited. Carried unanimously Certificate # 73324 Camp — She will go with the other members. Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch McLaughlin — No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve due to limited visibility. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73323 Page 8 of 11 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Linda Williams — Presented project. Public None Concerns (7:18) No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73324 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing Linda Williams — Presented project until Mr. Roethke arrived. Steve Roethke, Steve M. Roethke Design. — Presented project; offered that the casements be cottage style 6 -over -3. Public None Concerns (7:24) (7:12) Motion to Hold for representation. (Oliver) Motion to reopen 18-22. (Welch) Carried unanimously Pohl — Read SAB comments: no concerns. McLaughlin —The "C", "B", "F", and "G" are listed as casement windows; that's nine windows that should be changed- hangedWelch Welch— His concern is the four new "E" casements on the south elevation, which is the front of the house and visible from the street. Oliver — No concerns. Camp — The front door is shown as a 12 -light with kick panel versus the 4 -light door that exists; not bubbled Motion Motion to Approve through staff with the "E" windows to 6 -over -3 cottage style. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73325 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing Steve Roethke, Steve M. Roethke Design — Presented project. Concerns (7:33) Pohl — Read SAB comments: no concerns. No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73326 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design plans, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing Steve Roethke, Steve M. Roethke Design — Presented project. Concerns (7:12) Pohl — Read SAB comments: no concerns. No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted with pool not to be visible at time of inspection or thereafter. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73327 Page 8 of 11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 _24. Deangelis, Mark 7 Hedge Row I 733.2-8 SMRD Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing Steve Roethke, Steve M. Roethke Design — Presented project; not historic. Concerns (7:12) Pohl — Read SAB comments: no concerns. No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve demo/move off. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73328 25. Deaygelis, Mark 7 Hedge Row New shed 73.3.2-85 SIN= Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and advisory board comments. Representing Steve Roethke, Steve M. Roethke Design — Presented project. Public None Concerns (7:12) Pohl — Read SAB comments: no concerns. No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73329 26. Rothbard, Robert 3 Brooks Farm Road Rev. 72317/67898 41-222.7 CWA Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Chip Webster, Chip Webster Associates — Presented project. Public None Concerns (7:41) Camp — North elevation, the three casement windows look odd (previously approved). Oliver — Agrees with Ms. Camp. South elevation, the left 4 -light should be a 9 -light and pull the dormer off the front wall plane then bring the eave across. McLaughlin — The "C" casement windows should be fixed. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with the south elevation flush gable dormer pulled back one foot with the eave going across below; the 4 -light to become a 9 -light fixed; and the "C" casement windows to become fixed, per Exhibit A. (Oliver) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73330 27. Keating, Patrick 49 Red Barn Road Re-site structure 63-15 Self Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Linda Williams — Presented project; windows are 1 -over -1. Public None Concerns (7:50) No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted; the house exists with 1 -over -1 (no snap -in) windows. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73331 Page 9 of 11 HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 5 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Juraj Bencat, JB Studio Linda Williams — Presented project. Public None Concerns (7:53) Welch — He's opposed on principal. No others have concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (McLaughlin) Vote Carried 4-1//Welch opposed Certificate # 73332 Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and historic documentation. Representing Juraj Bencat, JB Studio — We are not removing the dormer at this time; the only request is to remove the chimney. Public None Concerns (7:56) Welch — Point of order; Asked about agents representing a project when they are not listed as the agent of record, given relatively recent past legalities, he wants to bring up the requirement of having documented authorization from the owner at the organizational meeting. No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve through staff the removal of the chimney but not the addition of the dormer. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73333 30. Picnic Associates 12 Eat Fire Spring Main house 20-62 Val Oliver Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Welch Alternates None Recused Oliver Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Val Oliver, Val Oliver Design — Presented project; had asked the architect to drop the secondary eave heights. Public None Concerns (8:00) Pohl — There is a lot about this design he doesn't like; but it's 500 -feet from the road. He'd like to do a view with height poles. Welch — This is on top of the hill; he wants to view with height poles as well. Motion Motion to View with 2 height poles at the ends of the main gable. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 31. Picnic Associates 12 Eat Fire Spring Guest house/garage 20-62 Val Oliver 32. Picnic Associates 12 Eat Fire Spring Pool house 20-62 Val Oliver 33. Picnic Associates 12 Eat Fire Spring Shed 20-62 Val Oliver Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Welch Alternates None Recused Oliver Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Val Oliver, Val Oliver Design — Suggested these track with the main house. Public None Concerns (8:06) Not opened at this time. Motion Motion to Hold to track the main house. (Welch) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 34. Red Cardinal Realty Trust 105/107 Old South Road New dwelling 68-164&165 LINK Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Victoria Ewing, LINK — Presented project. Public None Concerns (8:06) McLaughlin — There are 2 awning windows that should be fined. The front door should be a solid 6 -panel door. Pohl — None of the windows or doors are keyed to the schedule; that has to be done. No other concerns. Motion Motion to Approve through staff with the awning windows to be fixed; east elevation front door to be a wood, 6 - panel door; and windows and doors keyed to the schedule. (Camp) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 73334 Page 10 of 11 42.3.2-153 ' LINK t ,, 73335 OTHER HDC Minutes for October 22, 2019, adopted Nov. 53 Oxazzge S I?ar s. LLC- 53 Or Ceet Door and window chg Voting Pohl, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Victoria Ewing, LINK — Presented project. Public None Concerns (8:14) No concerns. Motion Motion to Approve. (McLaughlin) Vote Carried unanimously Certificate # 42.3.2-153 ' LINK t ,, 73335 OTHER Approve Minutes September 19, 24 & October 1, 2019: Motion to Approve. (Camp) Carried unanimously Review Minutes October 8, 10 & 15, 2019 Other Business • Mission Statement for Town Website vote. • Updated Like Kind Application. • Discussion of National Grid Distribution Reliability (L8) Project in regard to new utility poles and overhead wires. • Discussion of Net Zero Stretch Code and impacts to HDC. • Discussion and update of Sidewalk Work Group. Commission Comments • Welch — Asked that the Organizational agenda list a discussion on the use of synthetic materials. Camp — Wants to view properties using some synthetic materials and see what they look like. Pohl — We had the presentation, but we didn't vote on use of synthetic materials. • Welch — Asked that staff send to the Commissioners pertinent information for commissioners to prep for a special joint meeting with the Planning Board to discuss matters of mutual importance and how we can work together to make things happen and a brief discussion on the how the HDC might participate in the upcoming Master Plan. The meeting will be prior to the Organizational Meeting. Pohl — This joint meeting is at the Planning Board's request. Welch — If necessary for broad discussion, add a bullet point to the agenda; it can be titled General Discussion of Policies, Guidelines, and Bylaws; it would have been good for information to go out to Members well in advance of the meeting. • McLau hlin — Picture of a 200 feet of snow fence on the outside of a hedge along Pol is Road. List of additional documents used at the meeting: 1. None Adjourned at 8:33 p.m. by unanimous consent Submitted by: Terry L. 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