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Capital Program Committee
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Members: Stephen Welch (Chair), Pete Kaizer (vice chair), Richard Hussey- (Secretary), Christy Kickham,
Peter McEachern, Jason Bridges, Nat Lowell
MINUTES
Thursday, June 25, 2019
1 Milestone Road, Wannacomet Water Company, Conference Room — 10:00 am
Called to order at 10:05 a.m. and Announcements made.
Staff: Rebecca Woodley -Oliver, Assistant Procurement Officer; Alexandria Penta, Financial
Analyst
.kttending Members: Welch, Kaizer, Hussey, Kickham, Bridges, Lowell
.kbsent Members: McEachern
Late arrival: Kaizer, 10:06 a.m.; Hussey, 10:12
Documents used: Copy of minutes for June 6 & 13 and July 11 &18, 2019; sample RORIs,
.kgenda adopted by unanimous consent.
COMMENTS1. PUBLIC
None
1. June 6, 2019: Motion to Approve made by Bridges. Carried 3-0//Welch abstained
2. June 13, 2019: Motion to Approve. Made by Bridges. Carried 3-0//Welch abstained
3. July 11, 2019: Motion to Approve made by Bridges. Carried 3-0//Welch abstained
4. July 18, 2019: Motion to Approve made by Bridges. Carried 3-0//Welch abstained
Discussion Review of where they left at the last meeting: coming up with definitions for the subcategories.
Welch — These terms were taken from the Financial Policies and Procedures. The definition of
Ops High P(priority) — Required is that it prevents degradation. Someone might rank something
based upon it's not prevent degradation.
Kaizer — Department Heads are going to argue something is needed to prevent degradation; it is
incumbent upon us to sift through what they are saying to perceive what is integral to continue
providing services.
Kickham — In the past, we've asked for the Department Heads to prioritize their requests; that
gives us what they consider to be their main priorities. He listens to what they have to say.
Welch — Before moving on, he wants to ensure everyone is good with the definition of Ops
High P — Required as preventing degradation.
Consensus — Yes.
Lowell — He would like to have a way of listing inventory items; feels those don't require the
level of discussion individual capital request get.
Welch — The onlv reason the replacement of SCBA air packs are capital requests is because one
costs $50,000 and meet the definition of a capital item. Continuity is a big portion of filling out
the RORI.
Bridges — Asked about switching "preserves necessary function" to high and "prevents
degradation" to medium.
Consensus — Agreed and explained reasoning.
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Lowell — However, if Town Administration and Finance don't agree with the switch, their
rankings would skew the numbers.
Penta — She will ensure Ms. Gibson and Mr. Turbitt are on board with the switch before
making it on the RORI.
Woodley -Oliver — Finance's rankings have followed that logic to some degree akea&.
Welch — Asked if there are questions on Heritage -Tradition -Culture -Legacy .
Lowell — Explained how he views this subcategon : traditional use. Feels N 'A should be a
ranking.
Woodley -Oliver — Pointed out that 95"o of requests don't fall into this categon-.
Welch — Explained how N/A would skew the valuation of all categories and requests. Putting in
Zero is the way- to addresses something not be applicable; gave examples. Asked for thoughts on
a definition.
Kiekham — Suggested historic relevance.
Consensus — Agreed that is a good definition and provided examples.
Welch — W'e're ranking projects based on each criterion; other issues %vill flavor one's rankings.
Part of what isn't in here is cost as a function as well as debt service obligations-, those are part of
what we do.
Bridges — The RORI should be individual for each project relating to each box without am,
consideration about voters, master plans, out rears, etc. Once we and Finance and Town
Administration have ranked the projects, that's -,-,-hen we bring in the outside considerations.
Lowell — Agrees with i\Ir. Bridges; after we've ranked a project, we should have separate
conversations that incorporates outside influencers.
Welch — There is a comments section on the RORI, so you can bring up questions at the
meeting. When assigning values. cost shouldn't be part of the reasoning; that's a separate item
and should be addressed at the meeting. Cost is a function of itself and should be discussed as
such; if you think the cost is too high, make that note in the comments.
Kiekham — He'd like to see a subcategon that addresses the idea that the cost for a request
might be too high or too low.
Welch — Explained why he would prefer that be discussed in the group. _mother part of cost is
the "true cost": maintenance, insurance, resale, carning charge, etc. The cost of a project is an
individual categon and, in the future, would be its own subcategon-.
Kaizer — Explained why the cost of an item flavors his valuation under the Cost categon-.
Welch —That will be part of the RORI in the future; we aren't there �-et.
Lowell —The RORI form should be specific to what we tn- to do. Debt sen -ice et al. should be
part of a separate discussion.
Welch — If in assigning values a member thinks something is not applicable, the assigned value
can be zero. Part of reviewing the RORI is leading into the revising the financial policies and
procedures.
Kiekham — Asked if separate subcategories for major or minor improvements to efficiency, and
effectiveness is necessan. Whether it is major or minor ,, ould be reflected in the score assigned.
Lowell — Suggested one subcategon for "improve efficiency- & effectiveness."
Welch — He sees major and minor improvements as different.- also, he feels that if minor is
removed, we are sending the message that minor improvements have no purpose.
Lowell — Thinks we should leave both. Regarding subcategon Supports strategic plan's,. he
thinks of the Town Strategic Plan, not departmental.
Welch — It is in the financial policies and procedures as, `supports strategic plan: master, open.'
We're talked about breaking this into subcategories. This is in here to incentivize departmental
long-range planning and Town Administration supporting goals that matter to most of the
communitV.
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Woodley -Oliver — She doesn't think every department has a strategic plan; that's why it is
difficult to rank projects. Finance looks exclusively at how a project fits into the Town Strategic
Plan; perhaps that needs to be clarified.
Hussey — The Town's Strategic Plan addresses: transportation, parking, affordable housing,
facilities...
Bridges — ...environmental leadership, landfill, water quality, housing in general, and facilities.
Hussey — He has trouble seeing how, for example, IT's requests would fit into the Town's
Strategic Plan; he can see how it fits into IT's 10 -year plan.
Welch — At the last meeting, we came to a definition of this subcategory based upon the
purpose, mcentivizing department heads to plan ahead so that projects are in the 10 -year CIP
request form. As a responsible public body, we should be doing debt forecasting over the 10 -
year plan. An example where that isn't happening is the Schools; he's heard that we need another
$501\1 school and hasn't seen it in our 10 -year plan.
Lowell — It is in the School 10 -year plan.
Woodley -Oliver & Hussey — Confirmed that it has been brought up and is in the School out -
year planning.
Welch — In the next iteration of the RORI, Supports strategic plan(s) will get subcategories:
Town Strategic Plan, department plan, master plan, open -space plans, CIP 10 -year plan,
exceptions, and housing production plans. The reason we want to be able to have these requests
brought out years in advance is to identify the need and allow us to process the request more
effectively. Our reviews would be about emergencies, exception, legal requirement, imminent
threat. In the meantime, the ranking is about if a project fits a documented plan.
Kickham — We now have the Coastal Management Plan.
Bridges — He now understands the value for this subcategory.
Lowell — We have to know which plan the project is under.
Welch — There is a place for that on the CIP Request Form. Suggested, if the school is on the
long-range plan, he will make an apology.
Woodley -Oliver — pulled up a copy- of the School long-range plan showing the S50 -%l for
another school.
Welch — If we can get past the semantics, this can be a useful valuation; suggested changing the
language to read "Supports mid- to long-term plan(s)" to open up the meaning of this
subcategory.
SOFTWAREIV. SCHEDULE NEW • • . •TRAINING
Thursday August 1, 2019 at 10:00 a.m. at the Wannacomet Water Company Conference Room.
--COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. OIH:
Hussey — This was the first look at options and pricing. Came up with a plan to build a building without
taking anything down: build part, move patients into the new building, demo current building, and finish
the new building. Every room in the new building would temporarily be a double room until the old
building is demolished; then they would make all the rooms single rooms. It would be all the Nvay over by
the dirt road and none is in the flood plain. The difference between Options 1 & 2 is square footage.
There would be issues with parking. The most expensive is $431\1 and the low option was S41 JI. There
would be savings in energy with the new building. It would be two stories with all the rooms on the
second floor and support on the first floor.
Discussion about services that could be provided and create additional income.
ELECTIONOF OFFICERS
1. Not at this time.
LIAISON
1. Not at this time.
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1. Green Sheet
2. Member Comments
a. None
Date of the next meeting
a. Thursday-, august 1, 2019 at 10:00 a.m.
ldjourned at 11:37 p.m.
Submitted by:
fern' L. Norton
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