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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018-12-5ZBA Minutes for December 5, 2018, adopted Dec. 18 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS Public Hearing 2 Fairgrounds Road cm -- .-� yC09 oRA3��\`O� Nantucket, Massachusetts 02554 0 www.nantucket-tna.gov rri C-) Commissioners: Ed Toole (Chair), Lisa Botticelli (Vice chair), Susan McCarthy (Clerk), Michael J. O'Mara, Kerim Koseatac— Alternates: Mark Poor Geoff Thayer Jim Mondani r. MINUTES Wednesday, December 5, 2018 Public Safety Facility, Nantucket High School Auditorium — 4:30 p.m. Called to order at 4:37 p.m. and Announcements made. ce Staff in attendance: Eleanor Antonietti, Zoning Administrator; Terry L. Norton, Town Minutes Taker Attending Members: Toole, Botticelli, McCarthy, Koseatac, Thayer, Thayer, Mondani Absent: O'Mara, Poor Town Representative: George Pucci, K&P Law, P.C. A enda ado ted b unanimous consent APPROVAL1. OF 1. October 30, 2018: Motion to Approve. (made by: Koseatac) (seconded by: Botticelli) (made by: Koseatac) (seconded by: Botticelh) carried unanimously 2. November 27, 2018: Motion to Approve as amended. (made by: Koseatac) (seconded by: Botticelli) Carried unanimously 11. OLD BUSINESS 1. 20-18 Surfside Crossing, LLC Surfside Crossing 40B Freeman /Reade The Applicant is seeking a Comprehensive Permit in accordance with M.G.L. Chapter 40B, pursuant to a project eligibility letter issued by MassHousing, in order to allow a multi -family project consisting of 156 for -sale dwelling units comprised of 60 stand-alone single- family cottages on fee simple lots and 96 condominium units in 6 multi -family buildings, with 25% (39 units, 15 cottages and 24 condominium units) designated as affordable units, with a total of 389 bedrooms. The existing lots will be subdivided into 60 fee simple lots, 4 open space lots, and a 3.6 acre condominium lot. Off-street parking will consist of 2 spaces per cottage and 148 spaces designated for the condominiums. Infrastructure and amenities will be provided; however, the proposed project is proposed to connect to municipal water and sewer infrastructure. The application and supporting materials are available for public review at the Zoning Board of Appeals office at 2 Fairgrounds Road between the hours of 7:30 A.M. and 4:30 P.M., Monday through Friday. The Locus is situated at 3, 5, 7 and 9 South Shore Road and is shown on Assessor's Map 67 as Parcels 336, 336.9, 336.8, and 336.7 and is shown as Lots 4, 3, 2, and 1 on Plan Book 25, Page 50 as recorded at the Nantucket Registry of Deeds. The total lot area of the combined parcels is approximately 13.5 acres. Evidence of owner's title is recorded in Book 1612, Page 62 at the Nantucket Registry of Deeds. The property is located in a Limited Use General 2 (LUG -2) and within the Public Wellhead Recharge District. Any person interested in the proceedings or who wishes to be heard should appear at the time and place of the public hearing. Sitting Toole, Botticelli, McCarthy, Koseatac, Thayer, Mondani Documentation Powerpoint® presentation, architectural drawings, Building with Nantucket in Mind, and 40B Comprehensive Permit application documentation. Representing Don Bracken, Bracken Engineering, Inc. Chris Dallmus, Design Associates Marianne Hanley, Reade, Gullicksen, Hanley, & Gifford LLP Jamie Feeley, Cottage & Castle, Proponent Josh Posner, principal Public Meghan R. Perry, 14 South Shore Road Jill Vieth, 12 Okorwaw Avenue Hershel Allerhand, 47 Union Street Paul Derensis, attorney for Nantucket Tipping Point David Iverson, 21 Meadowview Road Sean Perry, 14 South Shore Road Diane Cabral, 8 South Shore Road Mary Beth Splaine, 11 South Shore Road Carol Muehling, 21 Okorwaw Drive Joan Stockman, 13 Wherowhero Lane Liz Coffin, 47 Union Street Linda Derensis, Nantucket Tipping Point Patrick Taaffe, 21 Okorwaw Drive Page 1of7 ZBA Minutes for December 5, 2018, adopted Dec. 18 Public continued Jacques Zimicki, 3 Wherowhero Lane Shawn Cabral, 8 South Shore Road Sutton Campbell, 15 Appleton Road Marylin Cornea, 9 Correia Lane Ron Bamber, 28 Washing Pond Road Discussion Toole — Starting with the architectural details first the single-family homes. Posner — Ready to talk about single-family homes today; we are in the process of absorbing feedback on the condos. Would like a chance to explain the Recreation Building; we think it's important Botticelli — She's looking for an updated plan showing the spread of affordable units. Mondani — Asked if there are Historic District Commission (HDC) comments. Botticelli — Not on this design. Dallmus — We're scheduled for an HDC informal review on Thursday, December 13, 2018. Discussion about Ms Botticelli attending that review. Feeley — ZBA had suggested we go to HDC. We set up an informal review through HDC compliance Officer John Hedden for Thursday, December 13, 2018. Toole — Would prefer they go to HDC period since it is their area of expertise. Posner — We won't be going to the HDC for a formal review and approval. Botticelli — Building A architecture is lower than the original submission. Dallmus — It is now 28.5 feet tall and is only a market rate unit. Page A2.1 bottom has an error; the elevation that states the side is actually the front elevation. Asked to go to Types B, C, and D which have affordable components. Toole — Wants to stay with Building Type A. He would like to see window trim detail; it should be part of the record plan. Botticelli — Asked about the color pallet Dallmus — The intent is to provide a variety of color schemes throughout the development All roof shingles will be red cedar natural to weather wood. They will put together an outline annotating the materials. Botticelh — Suggested they provide all the information that the HDC would normally require for an application. She doesn't want colors to all be the same and building types clustered together, she'd like this neighborhood to look naturally developed. Toole — We need some representation of the pattern of the color pallet The information provided should be what would be used in an HDC application. Asked if the single-family dwellings will be built before sale or the type chosen by the buyer. Feeley — He expects a combination and that construction would be phased, perhaps 10 houses at a time. Botticelli — Suggested each house perhaps have different trim. Type A front elevation, doesn't like the two little 9 -light windows over the front door and the dormer. An overall site plan with each building type color coded and marking the affordable units would be very helpful. McCarthy — For the Type A on Page A2.0 confirmed the elevation labeled "front" is actually a side elevation. The commentary of the dormer and asymmetry can be addressed. Botticelli — Need to pay attention to the window pane sizes and ensure they are vertically oriented, not square. These will be visible from all four sides. Knowing people like outdoor space, there doesn't seem to be any provided- Feeley rovidedFeeley — This design is pulled from Beach Plum Village; the rear doors open onto good outdoor space. Toole — The plan shows a very small deck not much larger than a stoop; if that isn't the intent, it should be corrected- Botticelli orrectedBotticelli — It would be helpful to see "snapshots" of each unit's landscaping. Again a color -coded site plan would be helpful. Toole — Asked if Type A is a three bedroom that can be added on to. Dallmus — The drawing is set up as a three bedroom. The difference between this and a four or five bedroom is adding bedrooms in the basement. Toole — If you are planning to finish the basements, we need to know. An expansion using the basement could mean more people, more sewage, more everything. Feeley — Our intention is to finish them all including area -ways and access from the outside. Toole — Show us the finished basements now so we can assess them. He's going to count the basement as a bedroom. Only one Type A is listed as a five -bedroom. Dallmus — We provided information on the matrix of bedrooms and basement We would add basement bedrooms to get to four or five bedrooms. We do need to get you a plan. We list three 5 -bedroom Type As and eight 4 -bedroom Type As. Toole — On the Type A we need to see the basement. He appreciates some of the detailing and agrees about each building not having the same trim detail. Botticelli — Asked what the top of foundation is relative to grade; any change of grade in the lot should be identified. If we know how much fill is being used, we can calculate the final height Bracken — At the back of the property in the area of the condo buildings, elevation drops across the lot Page 2of7 ZBA Minutes for December 5, 2018, adopted Dec. 18 Botticelli — Page A2.0, the side elevation 9 -light door is partially behind a porch post; it shouldn't do that. Thinks it is odd that none of these buildings have chimneys. Toole — Asked if HDC would require knowing where the side-vent discharge to a gas fireplace is located. We should know where air conditioning units are going and utilities. McCarthy — The HDC also looks at the landscaping. Whatever would be applied for to the HDC, we need to see it. If they went to the HDC, it would be a more streamlined process. She feels ZBA doesn't have all the information. Feeley — Asked if the board wants fully -developed landscape plans for each building. Botticelli — Would want a representative plan. If someone buys a house and wants a hot tub or spa that wasn't shown on the Comprehensive Permit plan, that becomes a change to the Comprehensive Permit. Toole — You have to have some idea what is being proposed for each lot; there is no reason not to submit that information. Mondani — At the last meeting, he brought this up. Considering the sensitive area, he wants to ensure that the landscaping is natural, organic, and non-invasive; therefore, he wants to see a detailed plan. Discussion about the impact of plantings on the feel of the development. Toole - Asked if there is a landscape plan in mind. Feeley — They've submitted that type of information. Botticelli — Would also like information on what would be allowed for fencing. Posner — It makes sense to look at every lot; asked for feedback on the samples that have been submitted. Feeley — We weren't prepared for that. Will ensure it is available for the next meeting. Toole — The 4 -pitch on the shed dormers seems shallow as seen from the side; suggested bringing the dormer roof up higher on the roof with a steeper pitch. Asked about the gable window if there is no attic. Dallmus — There is no habitable space in the attics. Toole — If the attic could be made habitable, we'd want to know that now. Feeley — This model has a hatch in the laundry room, which is an access point. Have been building with air handlers up there. Botticelli — Asked the first -floor ceiling height; they look to be 8.5 feet. Toole — The structures seem to be more than 8 inches out of the ground; asked the reasoning. Dallmus — We're going to build to code, so it will be about 20 inches from finished grade to the first floor. Botticelli — Suggested there be no casement windows on the front of the building. Asked about the small 2nd -floor room with a window, what is its purpose. Feeley — That is labeled as an office. Toole — We need to put on our Board of Health (BOH) hat and count all rooms that could potentially be used as bedrooms. That goes to the total number of bedrooms in the development and overcrowding. We need to know what's going on and what might be going on. There are a lot of ancillary rooms; a four bedroom could become a five bedroom. Posner — Each building would have an assigned maximum number of bedrooms allowed; that would become part of the deed restriction. M.Perry — The plans are incomplete, and the board seems to have a lot of questions that can't be answered. Toole — We need to identify the missing information; we will continue this process. Vieth — At this rate there are 60 houses; the 3 -bedroom houses could be made 5 bedrooms; the number of people just went up. On air-conditioning units (A/C) and heat, asked if all houses and condos will have central A/C and heat, affordable units as well. Botticelli — That is a good point to clarify. Toole — Confirms that applicant said that all houses will have central A/C and heat. T_voe B & B -A Dallmus — The difference between the two is the Type B has a small den and the Type B -A (affordable) does not. Window types are varied among the Type Bs. Botticelli — Some houses could have 2 -over -2 and some could have 6 -over -6 or 6 -over -1 to make it feel more organic. Thinks the HDC would be concerned about how each building relates to the area. Asked if Beach Plum Village all have the same windows and how that was determined. Toole — Referring to Beach Plum Village is a slippery slope. Dallmus — For Beach Plum Village, we looked at color and window patterns to break up them up. Botticelli — Sachem's Path is a good model. Toole — We can look up how Sachem's Path did it. Botticelli — Let's leave the window pattern up to the developer and builder. Not a fan of the rear elevation of this building, how the sunroom cuts off at the corner small window; would prefer it run across at least past the door to break up the wall created by the large dormer. The dormers feel very heavy; they're large and flat and not set back. It's worse on the Type B -A because there is no den. Asked if there is a difference between the depth of basement for the market rate and affordable houses. Dallmus — He thinks it will be the same. Toole — On the affordable units, the basement will not be developed. Page 3 of 7 ZBA Minutes for December 5, 2018, adopted Dec. 18 Dallmus — Type B -A is a three bedroom; to make it 4 bedrooms, we add a basement bedroom. Two are 3 -bedroom units and two that are 4 -bedroom units. Toole — The 3- and 4 -bedrooms should have different designations, so he can quickly identify the unit Botticelli — We will require all units to have outside basement access, not just market rate. McCarthy — The unfinished basement for B -A4 has a large space for mechanicals and a bathroom and bedroom. The B - A3 has a very large mechanical area; it could be smaller allowing more storage space. Toole — If a basement is not to be developed, it should be rendered undevelopable. We need a plan that shows each unit so we can quickly identify the type and number of bedrooms. Allerhand — Asked if there is a legal reason they aren't going to the HDC. Pucci — The ZBA can't require them to get a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) but is acting in the shoes of the HDC. He's confused over what the developer is proposing. HDC specializes in design and setting issues. It is very helpful to have the applicant go before that board to get input so that the ZBA can exercise on their jurisdiction. Atty. Derensis — He looked up the language in the HDC Act that would lead to a different result The historic district of Nantucket is defined as a national interest and preservation of history on Nantucket is not a local issue, it is a national issue. There is a difference of opinion. Allerhand — Whatever the legal decision is, ZBA can ask them to get an opinion from the HDC. Toole — They are going before the HDC next week. If Mr. Derensis is correct, asked if ZBA could do that Pucci — You can't do that because they are a local board subject to your procedure. If you defer your jurisdiction to the HDC, you would be overturned. Toole — Applicants have gone to the HDC in the past for a review and comments. We finally made the ruling. Type C & C -A Dallmus — Like the Type B, Type C has a rear living area that would be eliminated on the Type C -A_ Type B and B A have the same building height and Type C and C -A have the same height Toole — There are differences between the market rate and affordable units; the square footage on the affordable units doesn't appear to be 25% overall. Many of the differences come from lopping off a wing from the market rate house. They should all have different designations because they aren't the same on the outside and inside. The affordable units are supposed to be indistinguishable from the market rates; that isn't the case. Botticelli — On both Type Cs, the rear dormer is huge, it could be pulled in to be much smaller and drop the eaves, so they become inset dormers. The side with the porch on the right is over fenestrated with all the 1n -floor windows on the main gable. Toole —Type C -A shows exterior access to the basement Asked why this shows that and not the others. Feeley — We want all cottages to have outside basement access. Botticelli —They could get rid of some square footage on the rear ell of the Type C; it looks long. Dallmus — Asked if doing that would bring it closer to the C -A. Toole — The square footage of the affordables should be 25% of the overall square footage of the market rate units. He doesn't see that as the case. The C -A is a different building and should have its own designation. The developer needs to make sure the affordable houses meet that 25% guideline. Botticelli — The small corner lot, Lot 7, has no useable area but is designated as an affordable lot; that is not an appropriate lot. Toole — Also 25% of overall bedrooms have to be in affordable units. Posner — That is not what is in our plan as discussed with Massachusetts Housing; we need to think about that and see how we can come to an agreement. There are no 5 -bedroom affordable homes; Massachusetts Housing was persuaded by our argument that it is 25% of the buildings, not bedrooms. Toole — You are saying that 25% of units as affordable is acceptable; that isn't fair and equitable because you could make 25% of the affordable units all studio apartments. Square footage and number of bedrooms speaks to the fair and equitable issue. It's not off by a huge factor but it is off. Iverson — He's concerned that the plans are following a pattern. When they reduced the number of condos, there was no reduction in the number of bedrooms. They have all these rooms that could become bedrooms. To him that is suspicious. S.Perry — Asked the number of affordable bedrooms versus market -rate bedrooms. Toole — There were 165 total bedrooms; 25% of that is 41.25; there are only 35 affordable bedrooms. We need to look at this issue; it's how he determines the 25%. Botticelh — Six more affordable bedrooms doesn't seem to be uneconomic. Feely — When we went to Massachusetts Housing, we talked about the affordable units being at most 3 and 4 bedrooms; we based that on feedback reflecting need. Mondani — If we need more affordable units, add a couple of 2 -bedroom units to the matrix. T=e D & D -A Botticelli — Again there are heavy dormers facing the side; they should be more inset These are just not as attractive as one would hope. The foot print of the D -A is the same; it doesn't show basement access. Page 4of7 ZBA Minutes for December 5, 2018, adopted Dec. 18 S.Perry — The Type D basement has a full bathroom with shower with a bedroom. Asked where the mechanical space is. As designed, this would be expensive to maintain the mechanicals. Botticelli — There's a huge common area and a sitting room. Toole — The room count is the only reasonable matrix we can use to ascertain future bedrooms. Botticelli — Suggested eliminating one of the basement window wells so that it isn't habitable. Dallmus — On the dormers, suggested breaking up the long broad dormer into two. Botticelli — That would help. Toole — The side with the lowest roof is a tall wall. We should look at the possibility of the loft becoming a bedroom. D.Cabral — Ms Botticelli's concern is that the grade won't be noted correctly. She doesn't think the sides will be visible due to the density. Alluding to other projects by this developer, she doesn't want to assume anything. Splaine — In talking about the cottage, a comment was made bout the construction being phased. Asked what that means. Toole — That is on our list of things to discuss. Taaffe — If the ZBA is concerned about basements becoming bedrooms, the structures should be on crawl space; that would eliminate the problem. Feeley — Finishing the basement out allows the cottages to be smaller. Botticelli — She can see putting some living space below ground, but we need a clearer idea of what's happening. Stockman — Her concern is the sound of 60 houses running A/C. Recreation Building Feeley — The programmatic concept is a location for neighborhood activities; there is not a lot of additional space for entertaining; we've talked about property management being on site as well as a location for landscaping and maintenance office. This has a gym, a pool changing room, two meeting rooms, a kitchen and community room. The property management is on the second floor. Dallmus — The basement contains two bowling lanes, a fitness room, and an arcade; the footprint is about 4800 square feet. First floor has community room, mail room, catering kitchen, entertaining space, a small office, and potentially a little espresso bar. The pool is to the west of this. Second floor central area is open to below with a meeting room left and sales and property management right. East exterior elevation, this is trying to capture some of Surfside's past; used the Youth Hostel as an architectural reference. West elevation, the central covered porch provides access to the pool and is flanked by pergolas with an open porch on the left and screened -in porch on the right. Tried to keep the mass low. Botticelli — Would like to see some of the Youth Hostel reflected in some of the cottages. This is a huge building at 118 feet long; some of this square footage should be reduced. Toole — This is completely out of scale with Nantucket and Building with Nantucket in Mind. In terms of entertaining and events, you don't need 118 feet of length to provide space for a 10 -kid B -day party. McCarthy — Could pull off the whole sitting area; the great room could become the mail room; could make a meeting room -community hall; there are lots of ways to reduce this. Asked what happens to the sales office after all units are sold. Dallmus — The Sales office would become the property management office space. Toole — To get to the bathroom from the pool, you must go through the community room; that is more than inconvenient. This building is not only large, it increases the drainage requirement. We need a clear answer on how it fits in with zoning bylaws. Thayer — Are the 21 parking spaces for this building. Feeley — Yes. Thayer — Those 21 spaces could speak to the density. This building could be conditioned for no parties. Feeley — The idea was to accommodate those who don't have room for entertaining. They were looking for a common interaction place for all residents. Botticelli — Would like to see the building reduced and that space provided to the condos as outdoor space. Toole — To Ms Botticelli's point if the condo buildings were redesigned, this building might not be necessary. Botticelli — This building at this size is a visual wall between the cottages and condos. Should bring the condos to this side more so there is more integration. Toole — Doesn't like the layout of the development; it is set up so there are two distinct groups of people. S.Perry — If all families are hanging out in the basement, there is only one egress. Coffin — In the late 191' century, they created very large hotels; the facade of this looks like one of these hotels. The problem with them is they were fire traps and economically unsustainable. This seems to be another instance of that 100 years later; doesn't think it's economical. Vieth — Asked the height to the ridge. Dallmus — To the ridge is 30 feet; the cupola is excluded under the zoning bylaw. The cupola is about 8 feet above the ridge. Vieth — Is the catering kitchen going to have a commercial license. Who will manage the shutting down of the arcade and bowling alley: The applicant referred to 70 year-round residences that increase the SHI list L.Derensis — The SHI list will be reevaluated in 2020 so any year-round constructions will be counted. When you build more year-round houses, that changes the SHI list. Page 5of7 ZBA Minutes for December 5, 2018, adopted Dec. 18 Taaffe — Agrees with Ms Botticelli. This is attractive though it is inappropriately large. Eliminate this building and bring the price down on some of the $2M houses to make all the homes more affordable. They don't need a clubhouse_ Toole — Asked if any other 4013s done by this developer has bowling lanes. Posner — He's never done a bowling alley before. The motivation is they hope this will become an exceptional community where people want to live; part of doing that was having a fun building the residents would want to use. It's part of the total package; if it's eliminated, it has an impact on desirability. McCarthy — Many people have talked about the rural nature of this area. This does create the feel of a golf community, not a rural area. What this building does along with the condos is change the feel of the area, which is sought after due to its proximity to open land and the beaches. There is a lot of natural attraction already, so she feels there is no need to create an attraction. Campbell — The bowling alley adds to the length and it isn't something people look forward to. However, having seen the condo floor plans, that is very dense space without a lot of room to move; she can see someone wanting to get out to someplace they can stretch their legs. Thinks this is bigger than it needs to be. In all of this, there is no reference to any alternative energy; this development is going to suck up electricity and push us over to the third cable. Cutting down on electrical use and living more sustainably should be part of everyone's thoughts when building. Zimicki — There is an elevator in the building; asked if it provides access to all levels. Asked if the bathrooms and showers should also be Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) accessible. Dallmus — We have been making provisions to meet requirements for ADA accessibility. S.Cabral — This goes against everything our neighborhood is. This looks like something from an Airbnb photo; he's concemec that's what this community will become. M.Perry — Asked what community this is available to for use. Feeley — The residents of Surfside Crossing. Toole — He's certain the developer has gotten the message this design is not the final building for the recreation center. M.Perry — There are two bowling lanes, who will police it and how many employees will be needed. Feeley — The property manager will manage the building monitor use, lock up, and unlock- Hanley nlockHanley — As with other subdivisions, all this will be worked out in the governing documents of the Homeowners Association (HOA), which will govern this and set the fees. Whether or not the managers live on site has yet to be determined. Posner — Our proposal on common charges is that they vary based on the market -value of the home. Mondani — The HOA has full authority to hire the manager, asked Ms Hanley to confirm that- Hanley hatHanley — All of that will be looked at. We want to ensure this is enjoyed, maintained, and safe. No resident will be unduly constrained by it. Botticelli — We can put that into our decision. Toole — We need to start looking at these HOA documents. Doesn't want to talk more about this building because he doesn't see it as being built this way. M. Perry — Asked what is known about the pool: salt, natural, or chlorine. Feeley — We haven't decided. M.Perry — Asked if there is a potential for the recreation center having a liquor license; that would further tax the police. Hanley — There is no liquor to be sold. Any liquor at any of the grills would be no different than in your back yard. Corriea — She supports the Dark Sky Initiative and is trying to establish a Dark Sky Preserve to protect Nantucket as a star -gazing destination. This development will destroy the potential for the Island to be a Dark Sky Preserve. Toole — That is not in ZBA purview. A more worthwhile conversation is ensuring the applicant abides with the local laws; when we get to talking about the lighting plan, these comments will be useful. Corriea — In 2005, Town Meeting passed a bylaw to preserve the rural nature of Nantucket and preserve the night sky. S.Perry — Asked Town Counsel if the 40B is exempt from local zoning laws as it pertains to a request for a commercial license. Pucci — Anything where this violates local zoning, they are asking for waivers. Whether or not to grant them is up to ZBA. Feeley — The commercial use is exclusive to the sales office. Hanley — The purpose of the sales office is to sell units within Surfside Crossing. It is for profit within the limits established by the Comprehensive Permit. Toole — We need clarity as to additional waivers that might be required; doesn't know if the model home is the same problem. Pucci — He's confused about what is proposed. This need more detaiL M.Perry — A serious concern is this development bringing in managers and employees and providing housing for them or not; that exacerbates the housing issue. Asked if there will be a security gate installed to monitor who comes and go and uses the recreation facility. Hanley — This would be monitored by the residents and the pool and building will be locked by the property manager_ M.Perry — Asked who owns the sales office. Page 6 of 7 ZBA Minutes for December 5, 2018, adopted Dec. 18 Page 7of7 Posner — We have 100 homes to be sold; this office is a place for potential buyers to get a presentation and look at floor plans; it will go away once the units are sold; it will not be a permanent real estate office. M.Perry — We've been at this a long time and she's heard a lot of comments and questions for which information has yet to be provided. Wants to know when the ZBA will get a set of plans that it can work with. Botticelli — We've only recently gotten plans we can talk about. We are getting to the point where we can get answers. Toole — We want and are asking for more information. Absent of any direction from us, there is little use in developing plans. He wants to wrap up the meeting at 8 or 8:15 and an extension is needed. Hanley — Would like to try to schedule another December meeting and two in January in hopes of wrapping up by January 15. We are trying to provide all the information that's been requested. M.Perry — Feels the developer is trying to rush this process. Toole — If the applicant wants more meetings, they need to get the complete and full information to the board. We're waiting for a new proposal on condos; we've given a clear message that we want them to rethink the recreation building. We are looking for more information about sheds, phasing, HOA documents, and site design. Asked status of sewer. Posner — Mr. Bracken is preparing a revised sewer proposal based on discussion with the Town. That will be presented shortly. Botticelli — We never got back to traffic. Toole — His feeling on traffic and sewer boils down to the final site design and final number of units. That's what we're trying to get to so these other points can be designed. Posner — Asked to meet in two weeks and focus on the condo plan. Two meeting is January and an extension will give us a sense if we're headed in the right direction. Discussion about whether or not to continue in the NHS auditorium or return to the 4 Fairgrounds Road Community Room. Mondani — Asked if a meeting on December 18th would jam the applicant against their scheduled HDC hearing. Toole — He would be willing to work with draft condo plans. We still need to talk about the notion of phasing, the HOA and others. Koseatac — The applicant is acting like this is their first 40B and it isn't. They know what's expected. Discussion about January 2019 meetings: Wednesdays, January 16 and January 23. Ms Antonietti will look into availability of the 4 Fairgrounds Road Community Room for those meetings. Motion Motion to Continue to Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 4:30 p.m. at Nantucket High School. (made by: Botticelh) (seconded by: McCarthy) Vote Carried unanimously Motion Motion to Schedule meetings for January 16 & 23, 2019, at 4:30 at a location TBD. (made by: Mondani) (seconded by: Koseatac) Vote Carried unanimously Motion Motion to Accept the extension to February 15, 2019. (made by: Botticelli) (seconded by: McCarthy) Vote Carried unanimously Toole — We can talk about any waivers that don't pertain to site design but would rather do that when he feels fresh. Botticelli — Some things brought up at the last meeting include: no cutting of the buffers; moving the wells. Bamber —They need to come up with condo fees. He doesn't think these will be affordable. Toole — The project is evolving; when we get to the site design we can get some of this stuff done. Feeley — In response to a question from an unidentified speaker about separate entries for affordable and market rate owners, stated that everyone will have the same entry and access to the recreation center. Toole — Asked if sheds need to be discussed. He'd prefer to go with one shed size for everyone. Feeley — He will include the sheds on the site plan. M.Perry — Submitted a packet of documents to the board. Botticelli — The sheds should have some variety: move the door, change the window, etc. Toole — Stagger the positioning of the houses; they are in a fairly straight line along the streets. Koseatac — Wants information on the air handlers to be used to ascertain the amount of noise they will generate. OTHER2. 1. None ADJOURNMENT3. Motion to Adjourn at 8:01 p.m. (made by: McCarthy) (seconded by: Koseatac) Carried unanimously Submitted by: Terry L. Norton Page 7of7